Schubart: A response to commenters on higher education op-ed

Editor’s note: This op-ed is by Bill Schubart, a regular commentator for Vermont Public Radio and president of the Vermont Journalism Trust, the umbrella organization for This commentary is in response to a piece published on on May 4 and first aired on Vermont Public Radio.

Dear Correspondents:

My VPR commentaries usually elicit 35 to 50 thoughtful responses, some supportive and some critical, as one would hope. I generally answer each individually but my recent commentary on UVM and the state college system required a longer, more thoughtful response. Most were supportive, and the roughly 35 percent that dissented vigorously raised points worthy of address.

First, I did not include CCV in the suggested integration as I wrongly assumed that its mission was more deeply grounded in geography than the other five systems. I was corrected in this misperception by several and agree that if integration were to happen, their infrastructure should be included.

I believe it is helpful to express one’s biases to provide readers with context for what is after all only an opinion. I believe in the power of good government and good leadership to improve our lives. I like practical solutions. I believe they are usually found in the complex center of our unique and individual biases. They call on leaders and thoughtful people to engage respectfully, to compromise, and to be willing to learn from one another and often to change opinions.

I have also decried the relentless polarization of wealth and employment opportunity for all but the well-heeled that has undermined our commitment to educational investment and to the economic aspirations of our young people. And lastly, a student with no access to dental, mental or physical health care or who comes to school hungry is, in my own teaching experience, usually distracted from study and learning.

Looking forward, I believe we will need to realign our aspirations more toward life’s less transient qualities than the consumer extravagance to which we have grown accustomed. We will probably pay more taxes but should require more accountability. I think our single most important community investment is in education and the wellbeing of our young.
In response to some of the feedback, I should add or clarify a few points.

I went to kindergarten and grade school in Morrisville, Phillips Exeter for high school, Kenyon for two years, where I achieved little through no fault of theirs, took a working year off and finished my final two years with a degree in Romance languages at UVM, working the nightshift at IBM, and supporting a wife and two children. I was grateful for my access to UVM. It was affordable and I carried forward no debt. I then taught French for two years at Mount Abraham.

Though I don’t believe every student must go to college, I believe strongly in college education, but am troubled by the fact that much of current college work is remedial high school work.

Though I worry about both educational cost and quality, I’ve often said that the general decline in learning derives more from the intellectual culture in our homes than in our schools. Still I do feel that some teachers are complicit in the “feel-good” vs. “learn” dynamic.

The point of my commentary was only that I do not believe the trajectory we are on is sustainable. I believe that taxes must be the funding basis for K-12 public education and, to a lesser degree, higher ed. As students mature and approach employment age, they can bear some of the cost, depending on family circumstances, private scholarships, federal grants, and work-study programs.

Vermont has 620,000 people, 100,000 native students of all ages, roughly 25,000 non-native, higher ed students, and about 380,000 taxpayers. That constitutes one state college for every 100,000 Vermonters. The demographic math simply doesn’t support six college systems with attendant faculty, administration and infrastructure. Neither does our college and alumni obsession with building buildings as opposed to investing in exemplary teachers, endowing chairs and forging educational networks and digital libraries. When I look back at what made my education, I see only a few teachers who held me to higher standards than I thought possible and who were there for me when I needed help. They did not make me feel comfortable and I don’t see buildings.

Well-meant efforts by the state colleges to shame further legislative support from a state of 620,000 people and an HO-gauge economic engine, by correctly pointing out that our support of higher ed is among the lowest in the nation simply ignores economic and demographic reality.

Among the letters I received that were supportive of exploring the idea further, two were from private college presidents, some were from current professors within the state system, one was from an educational consultant to higher ed and several supported the idea, but did not want to harbor the five state systems within UVM because of its market ambiguity.

Finally, in an era wherein entertainment, opinion, journalism and advocacy have all merged into one sad mash-up called the “information age,” I would remind readers that I write only opinion pieces. I am not a journalist.

Many thanks for your patience with this over-long response and I am grateful that my commentary generated such articulate response – pro and con.


Bill Schubart

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  • duane peterson

    Thank you Bill for your thought and discussion-provoking commentary. I applaud you citizen social criticism, akin to our citizen legislature and select boards. It’s a public gift that you offer which I appreciate.

  • Dan French

    ” . . troubled by the fact that much of current college work is remedial high school work.”

    Seems to me this is an admissions issue. Why do higher ed institutions admit students who are not qualified for college-level work? Is there a connection between lowered admissions standards and the need to maintain adequate cash flow to support investments in bloated campus infrastructure?

    I can’t help but think that raising college and university admission standards would go along way towards improving the rigor of our high schools.

  • Here’s my little gum in the works: CCV as originally envisioned was a community level educational resource aimed at the life long learners – as well as those who need different types of credits to move on to more formal higher education.

    If we fold CCV into the current state university/college system it will forever lose the community mission and instead become what is being pushed now: a college for those who can’t afford other locations.

    I don’t think that is good for Vermont.

  • Dave Bellini

    I occasionally encounter a young person with a high school diploma that is illiterate. Or kids that cannot make change without the aid of a machine. I agree with Schubart’s April 20 post that points to parents, not schools. “Education’s failing grades begin in the home, not in the school.”(Slip Slidin’ Away-April 20 Digger) There are many examples of outstanding students whose parents speak a different language at home and yet we continue to hear the same whine from educators that this is somehow insurmountable. It’s not. Or we have to break it all down by race or parental income or some newly diagnosed, previously unheard of disorder. ANYTHING is better than having someone actually take responsibility for poor performance.

  • walter carpenter

    I would love to go back to college to earn another degree or a certificate to help make a course change in life. Yet, when I look at the options in Vermont, each one, even CCV, will put me thousands or tens of thousands in debt. Having clawed my way out of student debt once before, I am not that eager to do it again. So I just do not bother with it. We will get better use of our colleges and universities if we somehow find a way to make it so that people could actually go to school without fear of bankruptcy.

    • Christian Noll

      Kind of sad isn’t it Walter?

      You’d think colleges and universities would help keep us out of debt and show us that higher education is truly accessable to adults.

      This is an embarrassment. Education and capitalism don’t seem to mix that well.

    • Dave Bellini

      Excellent point. It’s impossible forf many to become “adult learners” without becoming “adult debtors.” I recall the exorbiant, per credit, cost of area colleges when I looked into them several years ago. “Financial aid” means taking on large debt. Too many Americans have debt trouble and I’m not aware of any institution of higher learning that has an answer to that. College today is a business first and foremost. They have a product and they want to sell it for as much as they can, to as many as they can. Last week’s article on license requirements and associated fees is another barrier for working people.

    • No fear of bankruptcy! That’s illegal. Isn’t that comforting?

  • walter carpenter

    “Last week’s article on license requirements and associated fees is another barrier for working people.”

    This country is out to screw the working people as much as it can anyway so why not add another barrier to go along with all the rest of them, including the exorbitant costs of higher education. If I lived in any other industrial/technological nation I could go back for far less costs than here. While my taxes might be higher, I would not face what we face now. Here is a New York Times article about it. They want colleges to be bastions of the elite like they once more or less were.