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  1. State, county and town employees; i.e. all people on a government payroll, should all be enrolled in the single payer system, otherwise there is too much discrimination, less equality in Vermont.

  2. Americans pay twice as much for health care as European countries with worse results (shorter longevity, higher infant mortality). Clearly, market principles do not work for health care; health is not a commodity. Health care costs can only be regulated by a single-payer system.
    Drug and insurance companies will hate this proposal; they will make sure that Vermont’s bill is killed at federal level.
    When drug companies assert that they need the money to fund research, just know that they spend 5 time as much on marketing their products as on research.

    1. Jan you’re right.

      I lived and worked in Europe from 1989-1996 and experienced universal healthcare first hand. It was hard at first to see other countries being better at something I always thought we had the best of. Unfortunately we blundered it.

      I’m sad to agree with you because I’m proud to be an American and its difficult to see some of the “Health Care” we have here in the states.

      Single payer or not, we’ve experienced some less than professional health care right here in Vermont.

      Way to go Jan !

  3. How will this work w/ interstate health care? If this is a VT state system, how does that affect those of us who depend on Dartmouth Hitchcock Hospital for care? If the eventual goal is one “possibly private firm” providing insurance for all Vermonters? .. will Vermont residents be allowed to cross state lines to purchase supplemental insurance policies.. If insurance companies know that eventually there will only be one provider, what is there to prevent two of the big three from leaving the State before the single payer plan is in place?

  4. “Drug and insurance companies will hate this proposal; they will make sure that Vermont’s bill is killed at federal level.”

    True, they will try. Yet, they might not get away with that this time. Their is enough anger against them, both here and in Washington. They cannot kill Vermont’s bill, but they can make it difficult for the waivers. They will be fighting it hard here, though. If it spreads out from Vermont, they know that they would be in real trouble.

    “Unfortunately we blundered it.”

    I agree with you, Christian. I too have lived overseas. We let our democracy get sold to the highest bidder and are now paying for it. I also agree with you about how difficult it is to see some of the health care in the US. It is even more insidious to have to go through our mess, being a patient and fighting the medical-industrial establishment, as well as the disease, battling corporate greed against your life, and knowing that if you lived in any other democratic nation none of this would ever happen.

    1. Thank you Walter,

      I think all Americans should spend time overseas so that they can see what we take for granted and what others might do a little better. When I say “time” I mean more than your college semester abroad.

      It is ambiguous that such opulence produce so much less.

      Living overseas also allows you to experience the power of the media in that you can see how bias and tainted “news reporting agencies” actually are. I’m not just talking about other nations media, but ours too, especially ours.

      It appears that there are “Industrial Complexes” not only in the military, police, corrections, education and YES “Health Care.”

      You almost have to take a step back and say; “Hey wait a minute, you’re here to improve my life, not detriment it.”

      It IS sad. Our country is changing. . .

  5. This only hastens my decission to leave the State of Vermont. As someone who has retired from the military and is about to retire from the private sector I thought my wife and I could do some traveling and enjoy winters out of Vermont but way too many if’s with this new plan. Also, I currently receive great care from Dartmouth and I have no desire to break that connection and jeopardize my health. 2014? I have a couple of years to get my self ready for Vermont in my rearview mirror! No thanks to Shumlin (bet you his trust fund will allow him to seek medical care at Dartmouth!)

  6. Joann and Allan

    Dartmouth currently accepts Vermont’s DR DYNASAUR patients and medicare/medicaid patients for that matter. Vermon’t new program will be no different.

    So long as they get paid they are not choosy where the $ come from, individuals, insurance companies, federal government or the state of Vermont.

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