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Vermont Conversation: Ruth Ben-Ghiat on Trump as a 21st century strongman

“Trump is a 21st century strongman. He’s a showman and manipulator,” said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, author of “Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present.” White House photo

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Joe Biden is now the 46th president of the United States, and Donald Trump becomes a figure in history. But where and how does Trump fit into that history? Ruth Ben-Ghiat, professor of history and Italian studies at New York University, explains that Trump now defines a new kind of media-savvy — but ultimately failed — strongman leader. She is the author of “Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present.” “Trump is a 21st century strongman. He’s a showman and manipulator,” says Ben-Ghiat. “Trump mastered misinformation and connecting emotionally with people. … But his populist stuff was just B.S.”

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David Goodman is an award-winning journalist and the author of a dozen books, including four New York Times bestsellers that he co-authored with his sister, Democracy Now! host Amy Goodman. His work has appeared in Mother Jones, New York Times, Outside, Boston Globe and other publications. He is the host of The Vermont Conversation, a VTDigger podcast featuring in-depth interviews about local and national topics. The Vermont Conversation is also an hour-long weekly radio program that can be heard on Wednesday at 1 p.m. on WDEV/Radio Vermont.

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