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  1. $18 million; this is what we used to call in sandlot football games a “flea-flicker”, a sort of unorthadox play with a little trickery and razzle dazzle.

    nice to see our fed tax dollars being funnled to the state; NOT! and the proponents boast about this ‘entitlement’ in typical “pork slinging” gratitude.

    obamacare to shumcare, it’s all paid for by you the taxpayer (few of us left) to promote one payer health care and more nanny state socialism.

    pathetic.

  2. You are a business. Your costs increase due to mandated tax by VT to provide healthcare for all. You have to pass the costs onto your customers and charge more to sell your product. Your product is now more expensive than the same product in NY, NH, or even in MA (how about the internet?). Joe Consumer buys the product in NY/NH/MA/internet because it costs him less. The VT business is now uncompetitive and loses sales (less tax dollars for the fusion progs/democrats to spend to save humanity from the 1%). VT business sheds workers and finally must close because they are uncompetitive….(no tax dollars at all for healthcare now).

    Oh…that’s ok. We are Vermonters…we shall just pull together and sing Kumbaya and everything will be ok.

  3. It’s about cost — not content

    By JIM MULLIGAN – Published: January 6, 2010
    [2nd Anniv. looms]

    There is a facet of my make-up in which I take particular pride. I am a print journalism junkie. However, I also readily admit to a significant level of ineptness when it comes to matters mathematical. I have come to accept this as a reasonable trade-off for those of us with a bent toward liberal arts. So possibly the following has its numerical warts, but I want to direct this at promoting a price comparison approach before we launch the Good Ship Health Care Reform.

    http://www.timesargus.com/article/20100106/OPINION04/1060303

  4. It’s not the “mandated federal exchange” that will limit insurers and plan offering on the exchange. That is the state’s decision regarding the exchange.
    The administration has been very clear that Vermont is not trying to build Orbitz like most other states. It’s trying to collapse everything into a single pipe, as you note. It needs to be clear there are still some very important policy choices yet to me made.

    If you collapse into one, the small group and individual markets then extend this new group to employers with less than 100 employees, as permitted by the ACA and you’ve captured the lion’s share of the private insurance market in Vermont – the vast majority of privately insured Vermonters. All you have to then is not permit sales outside of the exchange and…

    Voila! Not quite a single payer but close enough for government work!

    Otherwise, this is the best overview I’ve read of the issues.

  5. George Malek’s comment that VT companies need to be able to predict their health care costs far into the future is right on. However, what business, under our current system, has been able to predict its health insurance costs even into the next year? We all wait, with dread, for the new numbers to be issued by our insurance carriers — dreading what has become an annual exercise of “how can I possibly pay for this and stay in business? This is why a single-payer system is so needed by exactly the companies that Malek serves.

  6. And let’s look at some of those Health Plans with such high deductibles every year that folks postpone needed medical or mental health care. Catastrophic insurance does nothing to prevent more serious illnesses from developing. Free Care in some of the free clinics is not an alternative if someone has one of these catatrophic health plans, because free clinics are for folks with NO insurance. For low wage earners no insurance may be the better route to go; at least they still have emeregency rooms and without a Health Insurance Plan, they won’t have to pay a thing — the rest of us get to pay for THAT!
    And why is there such a rush to second guess what the Green Mt. Care Board will come up with in the way of a benefits and cost plan? In Cognitive Therapy we call that “Negative Future Predicting”. Let’s all get in there are influence the process rather than sit on sidelines throwing darts at “what MIGHT happen.

  7. To my friend and insurance agent, Craig:

    You’re a business. Your costs for health insurance has been increasing 10-20% per year, each year for the past 10 years. You’ve had to move from being able to offer health insurance as a benefit to your employees, to in some cases, discontinuing insurance altogether.

    As an employee you are now working harder for less benefits. You may not have any health insurance. You get sick or hurt what do you do? Lose it all?

    That’s the system we have right now and it obvious that it is no longer working. The insurance companies have clearly demonstrated that left to their own device that will price the average worker out of the market. The current situation was exaserbated by the fact that our former president, George Bush, would not allow the government to negotiate the costs of prescription drugs with the Pharmas.

    The situation has spiraled out of control. Municipalities are forced to raise taxes just to cover the increased costs. The best thing we can do as a society is to break the stranglehold the insurance companies have on our society and go to a single payer system.

  8. My brother is a contractor over in New Hampshire. He had two employees. He paid for their health insurance. It cost him about $20,000 per year in premiums for all three employees and their families. He had to incorporate this into his costs on the bid. One employee moved out of state. His other employee stayed on, and has been with him for about twenty years.

    This year my brother had to cancel the employee’s health insurance. His insurer is MVP. This year they raised the premiums by over 200%. They never consulted my brother about it. They just did it. It now cost my brother $2,700 a month for this employee, who has had two strokes due to a condition beyond his control. The employee is freaking out and my brother is helpless. New Hampshire has nothing like Catamount that this employee could fall back on. He makes too much to qualify for medicaid. If he has another stroke…well…he’s on his own. So what. If my brother kept his employee insured, he would have to charge his customers for this cost; they would just go elsewhere because my brother’s bid was too expensive.

    This is the kind of choice that small businesses face every day. And this is a system that we want to preserve? It no doubt makes a few in the chamber of commerce rich, but for want of predictability, as Mr. Malek seems to desire, it is lacking when an insurance company can just up the premiums whenever they want. If we want predictability and stability, or at least a measure of it in this society of constant change, let’s give the Green Mtn. Care Board time to do its work.

  9. I’ve know Bob Stannard for more than 20 years and I’m stumped as to why he calls me his “insurance agent.” I’ve never represented insurance companies. He must have me confused with his friend and BISHCA head, Steve Kimball.

    For 25 years I have proudly represented Vermont employers and their employees as the purchasers of health insurance.

  10. Craig Powers (see above)

    I’ve probably called you, Craig Fuller, all kinds of things but never an insurance agent! LOL

    1. Am I your agent?

  11. All Vermonters need to know the answer to Question #1:

    What will the new health plan mean to my family?

    I’m a state employee so my question is:

    For state employees, retired state employees and dependents of each: What would the new plan mean to your family?

  12. As a small business owner with 40 employees, we have have used Georg e Malek’s Chamber VACE insurance plan for eight years. It has never been predictable. Now he also talks about choice! VACE has decided (Mr. Malek) to switch from CIGNA to VT BCBS and in so doing is chasing out of Vermont a competitor that he so clearly wants to keep. So you can’t have both ways George.

    Also as a business person I can tell you I do not want to be in the insurance business, I have a business to run!

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