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  1. Excellent analysis of patterns of change and future options, well-stated and credible. We need to move away from our paralyzing fears that bind us to the past and learn to embrace ideas and initiatives like those suggested here to better understand our options for future prosperity.

  2. Herman Daly first wrote about the need to change our economic system in 1977 in his book Steady State Economics. In it he said that we can not grow forever in conumption or population on a planet with finite resources. That is certainly now being proven true as the seven billion people greatly exceed the long term carrying capacity of the earth. His concepts are now promoted by the Center for the Advancement of a Steady State Economy and a growing number of people, organizations and even businesses are endorsing the concept. Vermonters for Sustainable Population is the first Vermont organization to endorse steady state economics. Thanks for writing about this Will.

  3. Thank you, Will.

  4. Will –

    Succinctly and clearly presented. Havel’s opening poetic imagery graces your subsequent posting. Well done.

    I write to advise those who go on to read comments that the author of the book The Crash Course is Chris MArtenson. And also, that The Crash Course is available in its entirety (and free) on Chris’s website. Just Google Chris Martenson

  5. One day this past summer, I woke up at 5 a.m. and it was 65 degrees. By mid-morning it had risen to over 80 degrees. Alarmed, I did some quick calculations on the trend, and was dismayed to discover that by late afternoon everyone and everything around me would be in flames. Somehow, though, that didn’t happen.

    Doomsday scenarios about the disappearance of arable land, the irrevocable degradation of our economy or forests, or a standing-room-only planet are all hampered by the fact that nobody can predict what new technologies or events will transform our ability to continue prospering, and to spread that prosperity to ever more of our fellow human beings. These predictions look at *past trends* and extrapolate. It’s all we have when it comes to predicting the future, but it simply doesn’t work.

  6. Will,
    I particularly appreciate the tone of your message – mainly that, although the news is really bad, it isn’t all bad, that there are opportunites. And, that we do have a future.

    I’m reminded, although my memories aren’t deeply buried, of a speaker that presented in Burlington last year, although more broadly – not specific to Vermont, on the same issues.

    His ‘the sky is fallig’ message lingers today because it was so overwhelmingly intense and bleak. He professed that the worst of humankind was about to be revealed (as if it isn’t in the news on a daily basis); that we would be stabbing each other in the back for the limited resources available.

    Given the bleakness of his message and his presentation of it, it would have been merciful if he had offered arsenic laced, environmentally destructive bottled water upon the audiences departure.

    Anyway, my point is that folks educating about the energy demands, access to food, population, economic growth, etc. issues, need to be sensitive about their presentation.

    You did a great job!!

  7. Will thank you for laying out clearly the situation we CURRENTLY face. Jamal thinks you’re “predicting” the future, (does he lives in a cave?). The end of growth is not a prediction, it’s a reality. Without exponentially increasing energy supply, the economy cannot continue its exponential growth…but it’s worse than that, because our economy is engineered to ONLY function with endless growth. Any moment of healthy “steady state” existence translates into market-crashing collapse, which is what we’ve been seeing since 2008. The only way to deal with peak oil is to “destroy demand” (economic crash).

    There will be no recovery, globally. But Vermont has enough going for it that we have a great chance to make out alright, IF we take responsibility for producing our own food and energy. But if we remain dependent on upper-middle-class trustafarians and tourists we’re heading for a rude awakening. Yes tourism and 2nd homers will continue to be an asset for Vermont as the mega-rich retreat from the urban warzones. But that won’t sustain us.

    We need lifeboats of local food and energy, now, not next year. Jamal and others will keep telling us that the Titanic is unsinkable right up to the moment it disappears in a whirpool under the iceberg of peak oil, peak-debt and peak-population. Don’t listen to them and don’t waste time arguing with zombies.

    The religious followers of the infinite growth cancer-paradigm can keep drinking martinis with the captain as the Titanic sinks. Bon Voyage!

    But I’m very much encouraged that many Vermonters like Will Patten are building lifeboats, because that’s what needs to be done, and we CAN do it.

  8. Good post, especially the second half, where you outline implications of these huge trends for Vermont.

    Jamal’s cautions are right. It’s important to not just extrapolate, but explore multiple scenarios. Unfortunately it’s hard to see, now, what could drive better futures.

    Some thoughts here, based on our homesteading practice:
    http://scalingthepeak.blogspot.com/2011/11/homesteading-and-progress.html

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