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  1. This whole article made me want to move to Vermont so freakin’ bad! Show all the doubters that it can be done!

  2. Is Portier totally out of the running for Speaker? Won’t there be a vote of the full House in January? At which time, the House could vote for Portier, no?

    Not that I’d expect Smith to be vulnerable at this point … just a question of procedure.

  3. Amidst all the hee-hawing at the thigh-slapping humor, wasn’t there room in the story to mention that Lucy Leriche departed from the statehouse via the revolving door, the airlock, to go work for the mothership, GazMet?

  4. Come on up, Adam:) We’re doing it, despite the doubters:)

  5. It might be worth noting that Shap will be the Democratic nominee for speaker. The speaker isn’t elected until the House goes in session in January.

    1. The story has been corrected. Thanks.

  6. Get ready for more millions to be poured down an endless hole on climate change when the rest of the country and World don’t have a clue as what to doing to change course. But the huge waste of spending will actually be good in the long run when it is finally discovered that we have wasted our time and money instead of helping the poor, the middle class etc. and REDUCED spending.

  7. Walter, the last report I read said that green house gases are worse than ever in spite of billions being wasted on a farce!

    1. Jim:

      I am not exactly sure what you are referring to here. Are you suggesting that climate change is a farce despite the evidence of green house gases being worse than ever? If so, then I am not sure what studies you have read. I will defer to the ones already on here and add some more to the mix. There could be hundreds more. Plus, as Terry said below, “I’m seeing too much evidence, though, that the climate is changing: Katrina, Irene, and now Sandy…”

      From the Vermont Forest, Parks, and Recreation site:

      http://www.vtfpr.org/htm/for_climatechange.cfm

      Ireland’s main newspaper, the Irish Times, on the melting Arctic ice pack.

      http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/0927/1224324469890.html

      The CBC on the opening if the northwest passage because of the rapid ice and snow melt from climate change.

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2012/09/11/f-franklin-northwest-passage-arctic.html

  8. “He {Smith} told the caucus Vermont must address climate change — even if other states and the federal government don’t move ahead with initiatives to mitigate human impacts on world’s rising temperature.”

    Is it ethical for the State of Vermont to advertise and encourage unnecessary tourist travel (auto and air) in the face of climate change? Are Vermont’s carbon dependent jobs really better for the planet than those in Pennsylvania, Ohio, or Virgina?

    Will the Speaker have the stones to tax unnecessary air and automobile tourist travel to solve this problem, or is this just empty climate talk to placate the masses?

    I’m waiting to see his plan. I hope VT Digger keeps asking him for more than just bold statements on the existence of a problem.

  9. Sorry folks, there is not consensus on “global warming” ahem…climate change. Didn’t the East Anglican e-mails from the climate change scientists commiserating that the earth hasn’t warmed in 10 years, despite CO2 increases stop you alarmists? Even to the point that they were fudging numbers to try to make it fit their narrative? Use the money instead to help causes that we know will have an impact. All the research coming out now is pointing to the sun’s activity in climate change.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2217286/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-reveals-Met-Office-report-quietly-released–chart-prove-it.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    1. Sorry to break it to you, but there is no scientific institution of national or international standing that agrees with you.

      The only “fudging” of numbers is coming from you anti-science denialists like yourself who quote tabloids as if they were credible sources and pretend they are credible sources.

      “…an extensive dataset of 1,372 climate researchers and their publication and citation data to show that (i) 97–98% of the climate researchers most actively publishing in the field support the tenets of ACC outlined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change,…”
      –National Academy of Science,
      http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/04/1003187107.abstract

      But please, remind us why we should take the word of a retired weather man and a right wing tabloid over the National Academy of Sciences?

      Oh, right, because the denialist movement is convinced that every major scientific institution and virtually every climatologist is involved in an iron clad, leak proof conspiracy.

    2. Wow, your knowledge of global warming is as factually bankrupt as your knowledge of healthcare.

      By the way, climate change was a word developed by Republican strategist Frank Lutz to make the problem sound less frightening.

      Little tip, if you want to be taken seriously, try quoting an actual scientific institution with a good reputation rather than bloggers who claim to be scientists despite being laughed out of their fields. Which I’m sure you would have done if not for the inconvenient truth that their is not a single such institution on the planet.

      Ah well, better luck with some other issue.

    1. Sorry. The question has already been addressed (see below).
      And BTW – Given the overwhelming number of scientists that support the premise, it is absurd to characterize that view as the Left’s global warming agenda. It is not an “agenda,” it’s the well considered opinion of the vast majority of scientists in the world.

      http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/mar/22/why-global-warming-skeptics-are-wrong/
      See #2

      “A second argument is that warming is smaller than predicted by the models:

      The lack of warming for more than a decade—indeed, the smaller-than-predicted warming over the 22 years since the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) began issuing projections—suggests that computer models have greatly exaggerated how much warming additional CO2 can cause.

      What is the evidence on the performance of climate models? Do they predict the historical trend accurately? Statisticians routinely address this kind of question. The standard approach is to perform an experiment in which (case 1) modelers put the changes in CO2 concentrations and other climate influences in a climate model and estimate the resulting temperature path, and then (case 2) modelers calculate what would happen in the counterfactual situation where the only changes were due to natural sources, for example, the sun and volcanoes, with no human-induced changes. They then compare the actual temperature increases of the model predictions for all sources (case 1) with the predictions for natural sources alone (case 2).

      This experiment has been performed many times using climate models. A good example is the analysis described in the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (for the actual figure, see the accompanying online material4). Several modelers ran both cases 1 and 2 described above—one including human-induced changes and one with only natural sources. This experiment showed that the projections of climate models are consistent with recorded temperature trends over recent decades only if human impacts are included. The divergent trend is especially pronounced after 1980. By 2005, calculations using natural sources alone underpredict the actual temperature increases by about 0.7 degrees Centigrade, while the calculations including human sources track the actual temperature trend very closely.

      In reviewing the results, the IPCC report concluded: “No climate model using natural forcings [i.e., natural warming factors] alone has reproduced the observed global warming trend in the second half of the twentieth century.”5

      1. Your argument is well researched and persuasive. However –

        “… it raises another question for Vermonters: How much of their customary living standard are they willing to sacrifice for the cause of climate change, given that any contributions they make will be negligible on a global scale?”

        - Tim Johnson, Burlington Free Press
        http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20091206/LIVING09/100205026/Climate-change-Vermont-short-goal-not-losing-hope

  10. Re: climate change: we can all cite the studies that support our personal beliefs. I’m seeing too much evidence, though, that the climate is changing: Katrina, Irene, and now Sandy – 3 of the worst hurricanes ever and with ever larger footprints; frequency and intensity of tornados; this year’s drought; and right now there seems to be a shortage of snow here in Vermont.

  11. Two tests for Smith and his fellow pols:
    1. Decentralized power generation.
    2. No F-35.

    What are the odds?

  12. It’s sad that the Governor and the House leadership want to sacrifice Vermont ridgelines to foreign companies, in order to make overpriced electricity. If all our electricity came from wind power (impossible, of course) or wind and hydro, we would have made an essentially zero contribution to fighting climate change. One Chinese new coal plant – they crank them out every week – completely offsets everything we can do in electricity generation. If everyone walked to work – which everyone did until the 1920′s – the contribution to greenhouse gas reduction might be noticeable, though there’s still that regular production of new Chinese coal-powered plants. Vermont politicians need to have some sense of our planetary insignificance, and not sacrifice the state’s environment for nothing more than publicity.

  13. Yes, Randy Koch, I did notice Lucy Leriche’s exit to the big bucks of GazMetro. Goes to show that if you are a good girl and do what you are told, the big bucks await. Where do you suppose old Shap will end up? Shumlin, when he loses his next election won’t be forgotten either.

  14. The House need to elect someone who will Challenge the Administration like Paual Porier and stop kissing up to the Governors Ears!!!! Its time to Raise taxes on the wealthy!!! NO MORE BUDGET CUTS in AHS!!! Leave Developmental Services alone and Give us 20,000,000 million in new case load!! enough CUTS IS ENOUGH!!1

  15. There is no need to focus on health care. Haven’t you heard the news? VT is healthiest in the nation – AGAIN. VT Leads can go now.

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