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  1. If sovereign immunity is “a very important matter of state policy,” why did the State initially waive the defense? Goof up or a change because the judge raised the question?

  2. If the judge sides with the State of Vermont and grants immunity this act will clearly be yet another example of discrimination against one group of people. State employees do not enjoy the same rights as employees in the private sector. Employees in the private sector have the right to sue their employer for violation of labor laws. If employees in the private sector were not paid for overtime they have the right to sue. If a private employer abuses the Family leave act by firing an employee for taking extended leave, they can sue their employer for breaking the law. A state employee cannot sue their State government employer when that employer denies employee sick leave, as in the case Coleman vs. Maryland. Nor will state employees be able to have their case heard in court if the judge grants immunity. Do I really live in the United States, where life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness does not mean there will be the inalienable rights for all citizens? A country which is supposed to guarantee due process and equal protection of laws for everyone. Clearly state employees in this country are constantly treated and viewed as second class citizens with no rights to go up against its employer which also happens to be a state government. Surely a clause should be enacted to make the state exempt from immunity when Vermont and other states discriminates against it’s employees.

  3. Without jumping into other parts of this discussion: the concept of sovereign immunity is certainly much, much larger than a technicality.

  4. I believe that when the State entered into a contract with the Vt. St. Emp. Assoc, said contract covering ALL State employees, the State by so doing knowingly waived its right to claim sovereign immunity relative to any matters negotiated in the contract. This will be interesting on a purely legal plane. For State employees, it should be frightening.

  5. Hmmm, makes me think that the State realized there was a good case against them.

  6. p.s. to my 7/7 8:32 comment… If the State is successful in persuading the federal Court to allow ‘sovereign immunity’ as a defense against one contractually-relevant suit, which this case is, future contractually-relevant suits could face the same jeopardy. The State enters into many hundreds of contracts ranging from huge to relatively small and with multitudes of organizations and individuals. State employees are perhaps only the ‘tip of the iceberg’ relative to who is impacted if the State can develop a path to avoid contractually-relevant suits through claims of sovereign immunity at the federal Court level.

  7. If Shumlin and Spaulding had signed the unions relocation letter none of this would have been. It is part of the contract of VSEA Article 20 3c. Simply put if they would have done their job this wouldn’t be happening.

  8. David B.: This is a different lawsuit.

    The attorney handling case for employees (Tom Somers), is scheduled to appear Wed. on Mark Johnson’s show, so guessing he can speak to the State’s about-face.

    There’s a labor chant that goes: “Something’s up and it’s not funny, we do the work and they get the money.” Seems applicable to this fight.

  9. “The language [Somers is] talking about simply acknowledges that public employees are covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act. It says nothing about lawsuits against the state,” Rose said.

    How can public employees be covered by the statute but not have recourse to the courts to enforce it? The former is useless without the latter.

  10. I am in the same boat. My employer forced me to work for two and one half years, because I assisted in an investigation. When I complained I was told to sue them, I did and for eighteen months it was in federal court, now two weeks before trial they assert 11th amendment.They know I have a solid case against them and we even particpated in a settlement conference yet at the eleventh hour they assert this claim and the judge dismissed the case

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