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  1. According to BISHCA, health care expenditures almost doubled during Jim Douglas’ tenure as governor. Other than simplistic calls for letting the market decide, where were the Republicans as health care costs came to represent almost 20% of the gross state product (and more than the state’s entire budget)?

    And btw – The concern about new taxes might be more compelling if such taxes weren’t coupled with the elimination of premiums. Odd how the VHCF never mentions that.

  2. More partisan crap. These people don’t care about the health of Vermonters- they just want a political advantage. We have terrific people, including a retired hospital administrator, working on models for reducing costs. I wish Ms. Johnson and her nattering nabobs of negativity would just get out of the way and give this process a chance to work.

  3. “We’re not going to support a system that puts further demands on the pocketbooks of Vermonters and Vermont businesses, large and small,” said Darcie Johnston, founder of Vermonters for Health Care Freedom, the 501(c)(4) non-profit organization that announced the petition.”

    I’d be willing to bet that everyone involved in VHCF is comfortably insured. They should do without for a while and then decide.

  4. While there is no doubt in my mind that universal healtcare is needed, I too have concerns about how the Administration plans to pay for it. Governor Shumlin is known for double dealing and dishonesty so asking up front how his program will be financed and testing it as Dr. Till suggests would seem the most prudent course of action. We need to be concerned that a model is put in place that actually works, Governor Shumlin is only concerned with using this as a stepping stone to higher ambition.

  5. Why is it so hard for the proponents of single payer to simply explain a financing mechanism? Because they simply cannot do it without scaring existing businesses and potential new businesses that might want to come here! To even suggest a government takeover of healthcare is irresponsible without a plan to finance it. What are you scared of. Why do you react so negatively to any challenge to your Progressive views?

    Given the typical progressive nature of the VT tax system, the libs/progressive/dems will figure out a way to take more money from the people actually working (those damn rich people) and growing their businesses in VT to pay for this massive program. Look at the statistics related to the imbalance in the VT property tax system. 70% of VT households pay very little, OR NONE. Boy, that is fair and equitable. Now you want more!

    Some people posting to this board inflect pure emotion into the argument, which is not appropriate when considering the ramifications of this new entitlement program. Please take the emotion out of it and provide the public with some hard facts about the sustainability and unintended consequences that this program will create.

  6. Here is a link to Dr. George Till’s comments. He voted for the VT health care reform law.
    http://www.vtmd.org/sites/default/files/files/September%202011%20Newsletter.pdf

    “I think physicians, especially those in private practice like all employers, are very troubled by the delay until January 2013 of proposing a financing plan for the system. The delays are not necessary but are political in nature. The exact price tag can’t be known, but that is always true in state budgeting. That is why we do a budget adjustment bill every single year. However, what part of the new system will be financed through payroll tax, what part through income tax, what part through new and expanded consumption taxes, what other funding sources will be included does not require waiting until 2013. The delay causes unnecessary uncertainty which neither businesses nor physicians like.”

  7. “According to a report by the Vermont Department of Banking, Insurance, Securities and Health Care Administration, health care spending for Vermonters rose 7.6 percent in 2009, compared to 5.7 percent nationwide.”

    Why did Vermont’s health care spending outstrip the US average? Three reasons: political, demographic and economic…During the 2000′s the legislature expanded Medicaid benefits, which increased the costs overall and increased the cost shift. The demographics of our state continue to become older and this increases utilization of health care. Re: economics, VT is projected to have a minus 0.7% job growth projection, a downgrade from +1% growth a few months ago by Moody’s–one of the few states to get a negative growth assessment. Here’s the link:
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/Jobs-Forecast-2011/34083932/1

    One of the fundamental fiscal questions I have about a single payer solution is: Where does the cost shift go?
    Now I realize it must be borne by the system, but how that will happen is the question. It must be either in increasing funding to cover the shortfall, or in reducing services (utilization). This also will be a huge challenge in a state that has a high percentage of older people.

  8. Ms. Wilton said, “VT is projected to have a minus 0.7% job growth projection, a downgrade from +1% growth a few months ago by Moody’s–one of the few states to get a negative growth assessment.”

    First, this assessment is at odds with the Vermont consensus forecast by Jeff Carr and Tom Kavet for the Governor and the legislature.
    http://www.leg.state.vt.us/JFO/state_forecasts/2011-07%20July%20Forecast.pdf
    And it’s also at odds with recent job data from the VT Dept. of Labor.

    Second, healthcare reform cannot be implemented for at least three or four years (likely more) so employment estimates for the coming year are irrelevant for an analysis of financing options.

  9. One thing that businesses, large and small, is that health care premiums will rise this year, next year, the year after….always rising. They are now at unsustainable levels, with less coverage for the bucks paid, so many thousands of Vermonters uninsured and underinsured, nice six and seven figure salaries for the CEO’s, and will only get more unsustainable. We need to pay the health care CEO’s even more, while health care still is still the leading cause of personal bankruptcies.

    As Doug said above “The concern about new taxes might be more compelling if such taxes weren’t coupled with the elimination of premiums.” This is the key point. In whatever financing mechanisms that get worked out after the program is designed, these unsustainable premiums will be gone, as will those six and seven figure salaries for health care ceo’s that we have to support now.

  10. ach, typo…”one thing that businesses can count on….

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