Both sides of Shumlin-Dodge land deal lawyer up

The home of Gov. Peter Shumlin on Foster Road in East Montpelier. A state police vehicle is parked at the end of the driveway on Friday, while the governor was at work. Photo by Andrew Stein/VTDigger

The home of Gov. Peter Shumlin on Foster Road in East Montpelier on May 24 with a state police vehicle parked at the end of the driveway. Photo by Andrew Stein/VTDigger

Jeremy Dodge is seeking legal help in an attempt to reclaim his family homestead from Gov. Peter Shumlin.

“I just want to get my property back,” Dodge said.

Meanwhile, Shumlin has already lawyered up, hiring one of Vermont’s best-known attorneys, M. Jerome Diamond, to help him weather a storm of controversy that has engulfed the governor since news broke about the land deal last month. Diamond is a former Vermont attorney general and founded the Montpelier-based firm Diamond & Robinson. He and Shumlin both hail from Putney, and Diamond said they have a longstanding relationship.

Diamond is fielding press inquiries about the land deal and will represent Shumlin in future negotiations.

“These are private real estate matters, and it would not be appropriate for the governor’s counsel to be involved,” Diamond said.

The issue sprang into the public spotlight two weeks ago, when the media began scrutinizing the deal. Dodge, a high school dropout and ex-con, regrets selling the property and claims that he had no idea what his options were when his next-door neighbor, Shumlin, purchased it. Dodge says he has received just over $20,000 for the property, or about a seventh of the assessed value, since the governor purchased it just before it was to go to a tax auction.

Ten days ago, Shumlin told Dodge and the media that he would renegotiate the deal. The state’s top official told reporters that he would pay for Dodge’s attorney, as Dodge did not have legal representation the first time around.

Jeremy Dodge of East Montpelier holds the folder on which Gov. Peter Shumlin sketched out the details on the sale of Dodge's property. Photo by Andrew Stein/VTDigger

Jeremy Dodge of East Montpelier holds the folder on which Gov. Peter Shumlin sketched out the details on the sale of Dodge’s property. Photo by Andrew Stein/VTDigger

Dodge said he has a meeting with attorneys from Vermont Legal Aid on Tuesday and is planning to talk to three or four other lawyers who have reached out to him. Eric Avildsen, director of Vermont Legal Aid, would not comment on whether Dodge was seeking the organization’s assistance, as it is a “confidential matter.” He did say that although legal aid regularly helps low-income people with disabilities, it is unlikely that the nonprofit law firm would assist in a real estate dispute.

When Dodge sold his family’s property, it was slated for tax sale. He says he didn’t know he could have kept his property for another year if it had gone to tax sale, and that he would have then had a year to pay off the more-than $17,000 in back taxes, plus interest.

As this story has unfolded over the past two weeks, numerous onlookers have noted that Dodge’s reported annual income of below $10,000 would make him eligible for large tax adjustments. Dodge never filed for an adjustment, and Shumlin did not bring the matter to his attention. Former Rep. Oliver Olsen, R-Jamaica, estimates that Dodge should have been liable for $463.26 in 2012, rather than the $4,597.11 he owed without an adjustment.

Dodge’s quest to retrieve his former property may prove difficult. Shumlin said in an interview last month that he would not void the sale because “that wouldn’t do anybody any good.”

Neither of the two parties in the dispute has contacted the other.

“I have no contact with the governor, nor do I have no need to talk to the governor because I’m not going to get excited over statements he’s made,” Dodge said. “It’s better off that I don’t say nothing to anybody, especially the governor.”

Gov. Peter Shumlin unveiled his budget on Thursday (01/24/13) to the General Assembly in Montpelier Vermont. Photo by Roger Crowley

Gov. Peter Shumlin unveiled his budget on Jan. 24, 2013, to the General Assembly in Montpelier Vermont. Photo by Roger Crowley

Diamond said he reached out to Dodge.

“I’m expecting that Jerry and maybe a member of his family would meet with counsel shortly and select a counsel,” he said. “And hopefully, if he remembers to pass my contact information along, that maybe I will get a call.”

Dodge’s son, Shawn Dodge, is a 19-year-old Vermont National Guardsman. He said his family would like to settle their differences with the governor out of court.

“We’re trying to settle this civilly with the governor,” he said. “There’s nothing set in stone, but we’re hoping my dad can pay him back and it goes through tax sale again.”

Shawn Dodge said he and his four siblings did not know their father had sold the land his grandparents purchased circa 1950. Had they known their father was considering selling the property to Shumlin, Shawn Dodge said, they would have stepped in.

“It seems like a very raw deal, and we don’t know what all is going on and there’s a lot of paperwork we’re looking into,” he said. “There’s a lot of digging we have to do ourselves to figure out what went wrong, and where all of this information went, and whether my grandparents left something for my dad’s taxes.”

Shumlin briefly addressed the issue at a news conference last week and said that he would not comment on the matter further until the two parties had reached an agreement.

“As you know, we intend to enter into conversations with Jeremy as soon as we can,” he said. “Nothing has been scheduled yet, but I look forward to having those conversations.”

Dodge said that political operators have since contacted him about the matter. While he did not name names, he said he has no interest in dealing with them.

“I ain’t doing this for the politics, I just want to get my stuff back,” he said.

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Michael Colby
3 years 2 months ago

“…if he remembers to pass my contact information along…” Oh boy, just when you thought the Governor and his people couldn’t stoop any lower.

But, other than the continued cheap shots via the media, it’s a “private matter.”

Let’s hope Shumlin won’t need that estate — er, cabin — much longer.

sandra bettis
3 years 2 months ago

i sold a house a few yrs ago that i probably could have gotten more out of – can i have a do over too?

Jay Davis
3 years 2 months ago

If this isn’t the test case for our benevolent Governor. Now, hires a Diamond gun to fire at a man who he really swindled.
Of course, I sensed this about Schumlin long ago, so it doesn’t come as a surprise to me.
Schumlin really must want this poor families land very badly, except oil and gas haven’t been found yet in Vermont.
Satire-OFF

Peter Liston
3 years 2 months ago

“I ain’t doing this for the politics, I just want to get my stuff back,'[Dodge] said.”

Then why did he go to the media before he got a lawyer?

Karl Riemer
3 years 2 months ago

I don’t think he did go to “the media”. I believe WCAX sought him out. His kids, on the other hand…

Roy Moss
3 years 2 months ago
And how exactly was Dodge going to pay off the 17k in a year? Or even 10 years? The man doesnt have a real job and couldnt even pay his electric bill. No, more than likely after the Gov paid his bills and gave him some cash he figured he could hold the Gov up for more than he bargained for with the threat of a public “scandal.” He obviously underestimated Shumlin. Dodge is a loser several times over and his past speaks volumes about his lack of character. This is truely a case of a lowlife biting the hand… Read more »
Karl Riemer
3 years 2 months ago
Now, wait a minute. This comment, like the one below, caricaturizes both people. The facts are not far wrong but the motives ascribed and characters imputed are pure speculation. Mr. Dodge didn’t and still doesn’t understand the pickle he’s in. He’s both vulnerable and reprehensible, but there’s no evidence he’s devious. Mr. Shumlin’s grasp of reality (especially real estate reality) is incomparably greater and he definitely had every advantage in this transaction, but there’s no evidence he took advantage. Relieving Mr. Dodge’s considerable debts, making his home semi-habitable and paying for a piece of land he doesn’t need and a… Read more »
dave stevens
3 years 2 months ago

Taking advantage of a vulnerable Vermonter. I would imagine that a viable opposing candidate in the next election will ride this nugget for all the votes it’s worth. Lets hope its many.

Don Peterson
3 years 2 months ago

This story has everything. Charles Dickens himself couldn’t have done better in creating characters truer to type than Peter Shumlin and Jeremy Dodge. You have your albatross indeed, Governor.

And now comes Jerome Diamond, the icing fringe on the cake of litigation that the Governor has baked. I hope this stays in court until next November at the earliest. If only Legal Aid doesn’t let us all down and settle out of court…. this story needs all the daylight it can get. We want our bread and circuses!

Alex BARNHAM
3 years 2 months ago

“Slowly I turned, and step by step, inch by inch I walked up to him and then I slapped him, bopped him, punched him, ripped him to pieces and I knocked him down!” “Sorry kid it’s that word taxation, every time I hear that word it tears me apart inside.”

Gavin Cook
3 years 2 months ago
Shumlin is a pathological liar, he actually believes what is coming out of his mouth. Voiding the deal “wouldn’t do anybody any good”, um, except for Jeremy Dodge. Shumlin’s idea about helping a neighbor: 1. fix up your neighbor’s house 2. buy it for 25% of the value 3. deduct the money for fixing it up. 4. deduct money for rent 5. deduct money an pay off any liens 6. send your neighbor out into the street with a smile and less then 10% of the value of his house and land. (before you help your neighbor, make sure he… Read more »
cate bell
3 years 2 months ago

#7 immediately run to the listers office and get tax on property reduced.

Bob Stannard
3 years 2 months ago

As is always the case there’s more to this story than meets the eye. Dodge’s son is now saying that if he had known his father was selling the property….

Where has his son been? Has he been there for his father, who obviously has some issues? It sounds like he now cares about his father because he might be able to get the land back.

Nobody gave a hoot about Jeremy Dodge. That is until the governor decided to help the guy out.

Cheryl Pariseau
3 years 2 months ago

If what Shumlin did to this guy was being a friend then who the heck needs enemies? Friends help friends find solutions to their problems, not take advantage of them.

Karl Riemer
3 years 2 months ago

Solutions to crushing debt and living in squalor, what might that look like? Would it look like paying the debts and reducing the squalor a little bit? Would it look like buying a piece of land the owner can’t afford to keep, so he’ll have some money to start over, rather than let it go for taxes so he’ll have none? What would you, since you’re so versed in friendship, have done for Jerry Dodge? Would you have written him a nice note?

David Dempsey
3 years 2 months ago
I would have at least told him that if there was a tax sale Mr Dodge could live in the house for one year, rent free. He would also receive all the proceeds from the sale less the taxes due and had a year to pay the taxes and keep the property. The reports I read said that the daughter found somebody to lend her the money in February and went to find out the exact amount owed for the late taxes and that’s when she found out the tax sale never happened and Shumlin wned the property. I certainly… Read more »
Brenda Pepin
3 years 2 months ago

Bob, I think you left out a few words after “That is until the governor decided to help the guy out.” It should read: “That is until the governor decided to help the guy out of his home and off of his land.”

Roll over Lap Dog!

Karl Riemer
3 years 2 months ago
“Dodge’s son is now saying that if he had known his father was selling the property….” Dodge said he asked his son for help and was turned down. He went to the governor as a last resort. (Not that J. Dodge’s testimony is unimpeachable, but it’s highly likely his kids knew exactly what was going on, down to the hour of the tax sale.) What his son said, though, is that he didn’t know his father was selling his land, and that’s almost certainly true. He thought the town was selling it out from under him. Jerry Dodge went to… Read more »
David Black
3 years 2 months ago

Wouldn’t it have been easier and more ethical to have been more ethical in the beginning? Oh, directed towards Shumlin.

Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago
Mr. Shumlin has chosen wisely in securing the services of M. Jerome Diamond. Mr. Diamond is very savvy and would no doubt have steered our ambitious governor away from the slippery slope he has placed himself on. There would be no hand scrawled contract on an envelope; but there is. The stench of impropriety has been diffused and sanitized. When the winds stir up, the odor wafts back. The Governor snookered the press by creating individual, one by one, interviews with selected journalists. Our one remaining national news organization (The Associated Press)was apparently excluded. Although I believe the Governor did… Read more »
Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago

Mr. Stannard: “Until the Governor decided to help the guy out”.

I would agree with your statement partially.
‘Nobody appeared to give a hoot about Jeremy Dodge until the Governor helped himself out’ is the conclusion I’ve drawn.

Mr. Liston:As far as Dodge contacting the media – I believe that a journalist heard the story from a third party and suggested that Jerry Dodge call him, which he did – a standard journalistic procedure. If true, not quite the same as Mr. Dodge “contacting” the media. A nuance perhaps, but an important distinction. Is it true?

3 years 2 months ago
I don’t believe Shumlin ever claimed he was trying to be Dodge’s friend (am I wrong on this?). For that matter I’ve read statements attributed to Shumlin that speak of a very different relationship. Shumlin was under no obligation moral or otherwise to ascertain why Dodge had the tax bills he had. Until this issue hit the news and was actively investigated for all anyone knew these back taxes could have gone back many years. Shumlin did one foolish thing – he forgot that a Governor really has no expectation to privacy, and as such he should have gone the… Read more »
Lea Terhune
3 years 2 months ago
In a press interview right after the story broke, the governor claimed he was doing the neighborly VT thing, helping out a neighbor. Anyone trying to spin this as the governor being a friend of his neighbor, or being a good neighbor, or doing the VT neighborly thing, come on. That does not pass the straight face test. The governor does not need this land, the deal went sour on him, and the decent neighborly thing to do is to tear up the agreement and give the Dodge family their land back. Shumlin is going to have to spend a… Read more »
Karl Riemer
3 years 2 months ago
Peter Shumlin counts as helping out his neighbor offering him a far better outcome than would have resulted from the imminent tax sale. The tax sale might have paid off J. Dodge’s debt in exchange for his land, but he’d still lose the land. Shumlin’s deal paid off all the outstanding debt and, at conclusion, gives Dodge many thousands of $. Tearing up the contract is not possible. That would simply reinstate all the debt J. Dodge couldn’t pay, had no hope of paying, only now he’d owe it to his neighbor. He’d be right back where he started, which… Read more »
Jason Farrell
3 years 2 months ago

“Dodge said that political operators have since contacted him about the matter. While he did not name names, he said he has no interest in dealing with them.”

Just wait. It may take a month or two, but once Mr. Dodge discovers that he could be supported (literally and figuratively) by exploiting these “political operators” for his own personal gain, he’ll likely reconsider and run to the press.

Eric Benson
3 years 2 months ago

The real story is how a run down house in rural VT is taxed at $4.5k per year.

Karl Riemer
3 years 2 months ago

It was only recently run down. It’s now taxed as not-a-house, land with a foundation. When J. Dodge’s parents lived there it was apparently a very nice house.
Also, not to quibble, but maybe semi-rural is more apt. It’s about ten minutes from the statehouse.

Frank Davis
3 years 2 months ago
Thank you for the article. If not for politics this story would not make the local shopping news. This happens all the time in every town. There actually is a story behind every tax sale. There is a divorce, a substance abuse issue, pernicious gambling or spending, a death, a legal conundrum, an extended illness, a layoff a domestic tragedy, an incarceration, desperate financial transaction and any combination of these events. By serendipity a governor has a property bordering a property on the verge of a distress delinquent tax) sale and he makes an offer to the owner for less… Read more »
Paul Davidson
1 year 9 months ago

Just in case anyone needs to fill out a Homestead Declaration form, I found a blank form here http://goo.gl/tbcmOY. This site PDFfiller also has some tutorials on how to fill it out and a few related forms that you might find useful.

Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago

Rama: “Shumlin should have insisted ‘no lawyer no deal'”.

Absolutely, 100%, without question and without doubt.
You and I share that notion.

It is our interpretation of Mr. Shumlin’s failure to do so that differs and our assessment of what followed.
It may also have something to do with our notions (yours/mine) of what it means to be Governor.

Of course privacy is an issue.
Maintaining privacy and maintaining a high ethical standard is not a mutually exclusive process.

I’m glad you’re there, Rama. You pay close attention. I appreciate that.

Brenda Pepin
3 years 2 months ago
You are right, Dave Stevens, this whole matter is about taking advantage of a vulnerable Vermonter. But then again, both Shumlin and his Putney pal and lawyer, Diamond, demonstrated a shared lack of regard for those Vermonters who have diminished capacity while attending the “party” to cheer the signing of the assisted suicide bill into law – a bill that ended up so hastily and recklessly pasted together that now people just like Jerry Dodge will be in serious jeopardy of being pressured into requesting a lethal dose to get out of the way of those who could benefit. Shumlin… Read more »
Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago

Ms. Pepin: I do not agree that “this whole matter is about taking advantage of a vulnerable Vermonter” although I do believe it to be one aspect of “the deal”.

Your use of this issue to bring forth your disapproval of the passage of the “suicide bill” (as you put it) puzzles me. I am certain that you can identify a number of different reasons to support your criticism of Misters Shumlin and Diamond.

John Walters has posted a piece on Green Mountain Daily that builds from this article. I found it to be quite interesting.

Debra Chadwick
3 years 2 months ago
I would hate to see Shumlin slither his way out of this incident with the help of his high powered friend and lawyer, Mr. Diamond. He knew what he was going in “helping” his neighbor, who was down and out, and not as bright or well versed in property, taxes, real estate, etc. Our “esteemed” Governor got Dodge’s property for a low price and yes, he did take advantage of the person and the situation. Shumlin did not expect this underhanded “neighborly” gesture of his to get so much attention…where are your ethics, Governor? Glad I didn’t vote for him…
Wayne Andrews
3 years 2 months ago
As per the Frank Davis comment that the Gov could have just purchased the property that day of tax sale. That is true however there exist some risks with this move. First the buyer at tax sale has no insurable right to protect the home, no right to enter the land for the redemption year and most importantly only be handed what is known as a tax collectors deed to the parcel should the delinquent not pay in full. In order to obtain marketable title to the parcel another round of legal moves (and costs) need to be implemented giving… Read more »
Chris Campion
3 years 2 months ago

If Shumlin was such a helpy fella in all of this, why is he going back to “renegotiate” such a sweet deal he gave Dodge?

The only reason it’s happening is because the story got out. Shumlin is in damage control mode. If “helping” a neighbor means buying their property at a fraction of its market value, then Shumlin can never, ever again make negative statements about companies earning big profits. Or talk about helping the average Vermonter. We’ve seen how he “helps” the people with the least amount of resources. He takes advantage of them.

Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago
As I expected, the Dodge’s can not get legal representation from Legal Aid for a “real estate transaction”. Have you ever thought about the hourly rate billed by lawyers in relation to the average income of Vermonters? Mr. Diamond is capable of earning the equivalent of Mr. Dodge’s annual earnings – in ten hours. His normal hourly rate is probably closer to 300 dollars, but 1000 dollars an hour would not be extraordinary from certain clients. Lawyers are abundant in Montpelier; many competing to make the living they seek. Among themselves they talk about “cash cows” and “stones”. A cash… Read more »
Peter Liston
3 years 2 months ago

Isn’t it too late to ‘void’ the deal?

Shumlin has already paid Mr. Dodges back taxes.
Shumlin has already paid his back child support.
Shumlin has already fixed up his house, restoring power, water and sewer.
Shumlin has already provided shelter for Dodge for a year.

In order to ‘void’ the deal, wouldn’t Dodge have to pay these things back? And how is he going to do this if he has no money?

Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago
Voiding the deal would include delving into the situation to discover the remedy for the obviously “unjust” circumstance of Mr. Dodge’s life, regardless of past behavior, and determining his ‘true’ indebtedness. His debt for child support, given his circumstance and income, without question includes penalties, fees, fines and anything else the system can find to pile on with. Voiding the deal would include Shumlin’s being reimbursed for any money he has put out on Dodge’s behalf. It might take a while but our fortunate Governor probably does not need reimbursement immediately. Voiding the deal would not be the appropriate “business”… Read more »
Peter Liston
3 years 2 months ago
I respect your position, Fred. The situation merits that we take a compassionate look at Mr. Dodge’s life and circumstances. At the same time, Mr. Dodge makes his own decisions in this world. He accumulated his debts on his own. And every man is responsible for his own actions. He has an obligation to take care of his kids. He has an obligation to pay his fair share of taxes. He has an obligation to pay his utility bills. If Shumlin and Dodge had not made this deal, Mr. Dodge’s property would have been auctioned off. It’s likely that he… Read more »
Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago
The Governor appeared by telephone on the Mark Johnson Show this morning, where he allowed Mark to interview him about “the deal”. He had previously announced that Mr. Diamond would be the only person speaking on the subject. Mr. Liston: and… re: Reimbursement to Mr. Shumlin – Given the carefully veiled character assasination of the Dodge family, I have no confidence that the family, and their lack of prior participation, has been portrayed accurately. They may be capable of participating, now, in a way that we have no awareness of. Listening carefully to Mr. Shumlin’s responses this morning has changed… Read more »
Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago
Mr. Liston: You raise some good points and I have absolutely no argument against any “acceptance of personal responsibility” positions. Tax sales happen all the time in Vermont. The winning bidder does not take possession of the property for one year, nor do they hold title (I believe). The prior owner/tenant can live on that property for one year, and if they, until the very last minute of that year, can pay the tax debt, the title remains in his/her hands. Purchasing the property prior to tax sale put the Governor in an advantageous position, however it benefited Jeremy Dodge… Read more »
3 years 2 months ago
I gotta say, Fred, that I don’t think Shumlin is advancing a nuanced story at all, and what he said on the Mark Johnson Show today mirrored the facts as I understand them. Is there a fault in the system? I don’t know – I don’t know the history behind all of the debts that piled up for Dodge. Is there an issue with the legal system that creates barriers to folks who don’t have a decent financial base? Yes – but that isn’t Shumlin’s fault. Was it likely Dodge could have remained in a house that had no electricity… Read more »
Jay Davis
3 years 2 months ago
People, lets see the facts here. Peter Schumlin had an ambition and he got 15 acres of land from a man who is probably not in a position to pay any of his alleged bills. Indeed, Schumlin took the deed and went directly to the tax off ice to get the assessment reduced. Incredibly they reduced the taxes by more than 50 percent. It was a sweet deal for Schumlin who knows how to milk a cash cow until its bled to death. Mr. Dodges abilities to pay, his past assumed debts unpaid are completely in material. It is Schumlin… Read more »
Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago

Rama: I understand your point of view and it makes perfect sense. The difference between your perspective and mine – is interpretation. I see no angels or halos in this one.

Lynn Nila
3 years 2 months ago

Dodge vs Career Politicians. If this is going to a Vermont District court, good luck Dodges…

Ron Pulcer
3 years 2 months ago
I agree with Rama that the Governor should have walked away when the seller (Mr. Dodge) did not have a lawyer representing him in the real estate transaction. I also agree with Fred’s comment, “I see no angels or halos in this one”, as it applies to both parties to the transaction. In reading the comments, it’s hard to separate fact from speculation. But then again, to critics of this land deal, this is the “free market” with willing buyer and willing seller. Perhaps Mr. Dodge was more of a desperate seller, given his debts, but he was willing to… Read more »
Peter Liston
3 years 2 months ago

Interesting comparisons. I wonder if any of Shumlin’s critics have ever been to an auction and gotten a great deal on something. Did they stop to consider that they were profiting of of another person’s misfortune in much the same way as Shumlin did in this case?

I’m not saying that Shumlin was 100% right to do what he did … but I do believe that much of our ecconomy is based on trading on the misfortunes of others.

Jay Davis
3 years 2 months ago

Ron, this situation is not simply a land deal. It involves the Vermont Governor being what appears very greedy and Bam-Buzzking a down and out guy. Yes, tempting him, with money!

Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago
“Much of our economy is based on trading on the misfortune of others”. Sad but true! Capitalism is a proven economic engine which is in the early stages of seizing as a result of essential services being provided within the profit rubric and the ability of our corporations to maximize profits on the backs of the struggling people of the world. Unbridled capitalism is not a an engine. It is a powerful weapon used best and most by the greedy among us. The “two party” system, like children on a seesaw, keep it going up and down, with long stops… Read more »
Fred Woogmaster
3 years 2 months ago

The “none” in the last line was not intentional – I was thinking “one”.

Perhaps the “mistake” represents my deep disappointment –
and there is Hope, of that I am certain.

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