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  1. The idea that parents are inferior when it comes to teaching children is illogical. It is one more attack on families. Many parents are capable of teaching their children, not only in the early years but also through high school and beyond.

    The studies showing improved achievement from Pre-K are inconsistent. Many studies show that any ‘gain’ from early childhood ‘institutionalized’ education is lost by the time the child reaches the 3rd grade.

    If early childhood education is important, and we all agree that it is – why not allow it to take place in the home. Teachers unions often bring up the issue of class-size. One-to-one teaching could take place in the home.

    A child is only 4 years old once. Maybe it is best to allow him to spend that time with the ones who love him the most – usually his parents. Parents who must work outside the home for economic reasons could be given the money that would otherwise go to promote ‘government’ run schools. Do teachers unions object to this – is it really about the kids?

    If property taxes go up any more, we will have to find ways to cut back costs. This Pre-K idea is very bad for kids and a lot of Vermonters.

    (I had my first year of teaching in 1957 and was a union member of the NEA and NJEA.)

    1. Although I’ve traveled all over the world and lived in two foreign countries, it wasn’t until I married my German wife that I truly started learning. She had relatives on both sides of the wall and honestly isn’t surprised by anything she reads or hears here. In the former East Germany it was mandatory that children attended state run institutions commencing at 6 weeks of age; they’d spend the whole day there until the parents picked them up in the early evening. I suppose if one wants a society where children feel more loyalty to the State than their parents, since they see more of the their ‘teachers’, that’s the way to do it. An interesting aside – the Stasi (East German Secret Police) never had a shortage of volunteers willing to spy on, inform on and torture their fellow citizens.

  2. Pre school for three year olds , Please ! Just one more attempt by the state government to mushroom thier size and tax base revenues ! If you need a babysitter , call me , otherwise take care of your own babies ! Let kids be kids for Gods sake ! Many of Shumlins plans are just more fat for government!

    1. Or they can call me. I offer free child care. There are a lot of Grandmas out there who are good at taking care of little ones.

  3. Is there any thought given under the Golden Dome to take steps lower property taxes? The trend in Vermont is less students = more spending. Calling pre-K “education” is so it can be paid for through property taxes. What’s next? All day care paid for through property taxes? Offer all Vermont students 4 years of college free and pay for it with property taxes? Many school districts have done nothing to curb the increase in costs and the legislature still wants to grow the pie.

    1. If the trend continues, when Vermont has a zero student population, the property tax will increase to infinity.

    2. My question to is:
      How can Mooresville, NC educate students for half the cost of what Vermont spends and have better test scores, better attendance, and better graduation rates? The answer is found in a New York Times article from over a year ago.
      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/education/mooresville-school-district-a-laptop-success-story.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0

      1. thanks for posting the link to this article very interesting and informative.

  4. There is research proof the intended gains from programs such as the long-lived Head Start Program do not deliver as intended.

    Quote from the federal Administration of Children and Families, Office Of Planning Research and Evaluation, Report of the Third Grade Follow-up to the Head Start Impact Study (Dec 21, 2012, page xviii).

    “In summary, there were initial positive impacts from having access to Head Start, but by the end of 3rd grade there were very few impacts found for either cohort in any of the four domains of cognitive, social-emotional, health and parenting practices. The few impacts that were found did not show a clear pattern of favorable or unfavorable impacts for children.”

    In other words, the money spent did not achieve the intended goals.

    1. Tony Lolli vastly oversimplifies the HHS study he cites and unlike the study itself, ignores the plethora of other studies coming to quite different conclusions.

      First, unlike Lolli, the study is aware that while the overall cohort might show little improvement, specific subgroups DID show improvement:

      “In addition to looking at Head Start’s average impact across the diverse set of
      children and families who participate in the program, this study also examined
      how impacts varied among different types of participants. There is evidence
      that for some outcomes, Head Start had a differential impact for some subgroups
      of children over others. …

      “At the end of 3rd grade, the most striking subgroup finding was related to children from high risk households. For this subgroup, children in the 3-year old cohort demonstrated
      sustained cognitive impacts across all the years from pre-K through 3rd grade. At the
      end of 3rd grade, the Head Start children from high risk households showed favorable impacts on the ECLS-K Reading Assessment, the WJIII Letter-Word Identification, and the teacher-reported reading/language arts skills. This was in contrast to the impacts for children in lower and moderate risk households, for whom there were no impacts. Those children who started out with more familial stressors than their peers were found to have multiple positive impacts on the direct student assessments over time. Also among the 3-year-old cohort, children of parents with no reported depressive symptoms experienced
      sustained benefits of Head Start in the cognitive[150] domain through the end of 3rd grade and in the social-emotional and parenting practices domain through the end of 1st grade.

      “Among the 4-year-olds, the subgroups that demonstrated sustained benefits were children of parents who reported mild depressive symptoms, severe depressive symptoms, and Black children. Head Start children of parents reporting mild depressive symptoms demonstrated favorable cognitive impacts through the end of 3rd grade. This is
      in contrast to those whose parents reported, no, moderate, or severe depressive symptoms.” (pp. 149-150)

      In addition, success in 3rd grade is NOT the goal of Head Start; it is simply the end point of this particular study. The study itself notes:

      “The lasting effects of Head Start and early childhood education in general on children’s outcomes have been the focus of much study. Considering only outcomes through early elementary school and middle childhood, results for the HSIS cognitive outcomes are in line with other experimental and non-experimental early education studies.” (p. 151)

      The authors then continue:

      “However, as we discuss later, some studies, including those that did not show differences in elementary school, reported finding positive effects later in adulthood.
      Although the underlying cause of the rapid attenuation of early impacts is an area of frequent speculation, we don’t have a good understanding of this observed pattern.” (p. 151)

      Finally, they note:

      “We do not yet know if there will be positive outcomes for HSIS participants later in life, however, research suggests that positive outcomes later in life are possible. Despite a
      growing body of research about relatively rapid dissipation of early cognitive impacts, there is some evidence suggesting that positive effects of Head Start may have an impact on participants’ later life such as later school success and early adulthood outcomes (Garces, et al., 2002; Ludwig & Miller, 2007; Deming, 2009). Garces, Thomas, and Currie (2000) conducted a non-experimental study that reported evidence of long-term improvement for Head Start participants on outcomes such as school attainment, earnings, and crime reduction, for some race and gender combinations. Ludwig and Miller (2007), using a regression discontinuity design, reported that increases in Head Start funding were associated with a decline in mortality rates for children [152] We
      do not yet know if there will be positive outcomes for HSIS participants later
      in life, however, research suggests that positive outcomes later in life are possible.
      Despite a growing body of research about relatively rapid dissipation of early
      cognitive impacts, there is some evidence suggesting that positive effects of
      Head Start may have an impact on participants’ later life such as later school
      success and early adulthood outcomes (Garces, et al., 2002; Ludwig & Miller, 2007; Deming, 2009). Garces, Thomas, and Currie (2000) conducted a non-experimental study that reported evidence of long-term improvement for Head Start participants on outcomes such as school attainment, earnings, and crime reduction, for some race and gender combinations. Ludwig and Miller (2007), using a regression discontinuity design, reported that increases in Head Start funding were associated with a decline in mortality rates for children.”

      I should add two other points. First, Head Start is not synonymous with “preschool.” Some of the differences in all these studies, to the extent there are any, may relate to
      that difference. Second, the study itself notes: “While on average, access to Head Start resulted in more positive experiences for children, not all children in the Head Start group had the same quality of experience. The majority (70 percent) of Head Start children in both cohorts were in centers with overall average ECERS-R scores of at least a five
      on a seven-point scale, indicating a good or better environment.” (p. 146) and “Thus, the nature and quality of the experience varied—for some children it was very good, while for other children it was less so. Both the average high quality and the variation may be important in understanding impacts on child and family outcomes.” (p. 147)

      I have no expertise in pre-school education and therefore no opinion on the underlying question. But I find it rather appalling to see studies being misused and thrown about as this one has been here and elsewhere.

  5. When our kids were that age I was working as a housekeeper at our local hospital cleaning doctors offices. We sent our kids to a local cooperative pre-school because we felt that it was a good thing so we made it a priority and figured out how to afford it on our low income. Other people can figure it out too. The State should not be in the business of taking care of everything for everybody, and we can’t afford it!

  6. Good God, enough already with big goverment. Stop spending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What a great way to give a kickback to the NEA union. I suppose the teachers of the 4 year olds need to receive 60K a year to hand out crayons.

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