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  1. So kind of Mssrs. Sanders and Welch to have ideas on solving the massive problems they have created. Repaying the insane amount of debt they have saddled us with will require $200,000 from every citizen in the country. What a plan our three “leaders” have implemented. Run up the debt until we are a stone’s throw from fiscal collapse, the blame the “rich.” Once again PTA Barnum is proved right.

    1. Mr. French,

      First off, BOTH political parties are to blame for the debt that has been racked up over the past few decades.

      Go ahead and blame Bernie, if you want, since he has been in Congress for a long time.

      But on the other hand, Mr. Welch was elected to Congress in 2006, and began serving in 2007. That is several years after the initial Bush Tax Cuts were passed and Congress voted to give President Bush a pass on starting a war of choice in Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

      Mr. Welch also joined Congress after the Medicare Part D law was passed, which included the “Donut Hole” and prevented the U.S. Government from negotiating for volume discount on bulk purchases of prescription drugs (not very fiscally conservative). The Medicare Part D law was passed with arm twisting from House Speaker Tom Delay (R-TX) late into the night.

      In contrast, Rep. Paul Ryan has been in Congress since 1999. Rep. Ryan has voted for the War in Iraq and Medicare Part D. These votes were held before Rep. Welch entered the U.S. House. So I would say that Rep. Ryan had more to do with our Federal Debt than Rep. Welch, if you look over the past decade or so.

      1. Mr. Pulcer,

        Despite Joe Biden telling the country a whopper during the debates, he too voted for war on Iraq. And don’t expect me or any other thinking American to agree with your subtle charge that the Bush era tax cuts (passed by Congress) are the cause of a $16 trillion debt. Have both parties acted irresponsibly in fiscal matters? Absolutely. Which party is largely responsible for unsustainable entitlement programs and unsustainable spending? The Democrat party, whether you want to admit it or not. I live in Vermont, and Leahy, Sanders and Welch never met an entitlement program they did not want to fund or expand, and imminent financial collapse is the result. We deserve much better than politicians who will happily trade our financial security for votes. There is absolutely no excuse for a $16 trillion debt, and the fact that the President of the United States did not know how much it was when asked on national TV is appalling, inconceivable and inexcusable.

        1. ” By themselves, in fact, the Bush tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will account for almost half of the $20 trillion in debt that, under current policies, the nation will owe by 2019.”

          Maybe not 16 trillion, but almost 10.

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/09/05/the-three-best-charts-on-how-clintons-surpluses-became-bush-and-obamas-deficits/

        2. Mr. French,

          As I stated first, BOTH political parties are responsible for the federal debt, and we the voters in all 50 states are responsible for voting in a Congress with a 13% approval rating. Yes, Democratic Senators Biden, Kerry, Clinton, et al voted for the War in Iraq, and are also responsible for the incurred debt, just like every Republican who also voted for giving Dubya a blank check for Iraq.

          The difference is that Biden, Kerry, Clinton, et al don’t claim to be “fiscally conservative”. I was pointing out Paul Ryan because he “claims” to be a fiscal conservative when his votes tell a different story.

          Rep. Ron Paul and Rep. Jeff Flake, both Republicans have been consistently “fiscally conservative”. Neither of them voted for Medicare Part D, as it was structured. Why didn’t the Republicans nominate Jeff Flake for President? Instead they ran Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, et al.

          That is why I split my ticket and wrote in some names in a couple of cases. The electoral choices we have to vote for are not ideal in either party.

  2. When you look at these two politicians, you are looking at the CAUSE of the problem we have today in spending and not the CURE!

  3. “CAUSE of the problem we have today in spending and not the CURE!”

    The GOP congress on the national level has been pretty good at putting us into debt over the years — medicare plan D, and two simultaneous wars with tax cuts for the billionaires being prime examples of how they have done this so efficiently.

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