Brock fires back at Dems over LePage appearance criticism

Randy Brock and the GOP are fending off criticism from the Vermont Democratic Party over a July 11 campaign event in which Brock is hosting Maine Gov. Paul LePage, who has faced criticism for his aggressive cuts to social programs there.

A release from the Vermont Democratic Party yesterday said the event sheds light on Brock’s ideals.

“By inviting LePage to Vermont, Randy Brock confirms his allegiance to a radically conservative Republican agenda,” it reads. “This move began with his remarkably regressive healthcare proposal, designed by Tarren Bragdon, the same architect of LePage’s LD 1333, a law that rolled back coverage and accessibility for Maine’s elderly and rural populations, as well as people with pre-existing conditions and small businesses.”

But Brock and the GOP defended LePage’s appearance. In an interview last night, Brock condemned the release.

“The releases that the Democratic Party [sent out] were filled with misinformation, innuendo, and it’s not the kind of thing that we want to see here in Vermont. We want to see issues that are based on civility and fact,” he said.

A separate release from the GOP yesterday pointedly titled “Correction: Randy Brock invites a Reform Minded Governor to Vermont who has put his state back on a path to prosperity” called the Democrats’ release “vitriolic and venomous.”

In the release, Vermont GOP chairman Jack Lindley gave a strongly worded response.

“The name callers who dwell in the bowels at the Vermont Democratic Party might actually learn something from listening to the words of Governor LePage. And even if they don’t like his ideas, the least they could do is treat this man with the same civility that our side demonstrated during President Obama’s recent visit to Vermont,” said Lindley.

Taylor Dobbs

Leave a Reply

29 Comments on "Brock fires back at Dems over LePage appearance criticism"

Comment Policy

VTDigger.org requires that all commenters identify themselves by their authentic first and last names. Initials, pseudonyms or screen names are not permissible.

No personal harassment, abuse, or hate speech is permitted. Be succinct and to the point. If your comment is over 500 words, consider sending a commentary instead.

We personally review and moderate every comment that is posted here. This takes a lot of time; please consider donating to keep the conversation productive and informative.

The purpose of this policy is to encourage a civil discourse among readers who are willing to stand behind their identities and their comments. VTDigger has created a safe zone for readers who wish to engage in a thoughtful discussion on a range of subjects. We hope you join the conversation.

Privacy policy
Sort by:   newest | oldest | most voted
Patricia Crocker
3 years 11 months ago
The Democrats can use all the vitriol they want. Most Vermonters will not buy it. They can’t distract from the failing policies of the Shumlin Administration, including Shumlincare. Anyone with common sense knows that Vermont is moving along an unsustainable path and that some fiscal common sense is needed to correct that path. Vermont can learn from Maine’s governor who has rescued that state from spiraling deficits. Most people want a hand up not a hand out. Social programs are supposed to be temporary, when people need them, not a way of life. Jobs and economic security are what people… Read more »
Bob Johnson
3 years 11 months ago

“Where are the jobs Governor Shumlin?”

Are you kidding?

Unemployment is well below the national average, and has actually gone down.

Most people want a decent social safety net, including healthcare; you may feel the path to “sustainability” involves leaving the poor to die in a ditch so someone else can make a quick buck, thankfully the state seems to disagree with you.

Craig Powers
3 years 11 months ago

Your assertion about unemployment is incorrect. Please see the link provided for the reason the unemployment rate is artificially low:

http://publicassets.org/publications/monthly-jobs-report/june-2012/

Yes, we do want a social safety net. We just do not want everyone in VT to be in the net based on human rights ideology that makes everything imaginable one.

Bob Johnson
3 years 11 months ago

No, my statement was perfectly accurate (see http://www.vtlmi.info/).

You source claims the May numbers “may be inaccurate” then attempts to redefine the term unemployment to support this nonsense. This is just more conspiracy theory drivel driven by cranks and conspiracy theorists for the benefit of koolaid drinkers.

Secondly, I’m sorry you dislike the fact that humans have rights, or rather the popularity of this ideology, but if you feel so strongly about it, feel free to move to Somalia; where this ideology is not so popular.

patricia crocker
3 years 11 months ago

The last financial report I read reported lower unemployment, but mentioned that the private sector lost 200 jobs, while the public sector gained 400 jobs. This distorts the real jobs picture. VT has the highest percentage of public sector employees than any other state. There needs to be a balance between private sector and public sector, and VT is very heavily weighted on one side.

Doug Gibson
3 years 11 months ago
Yeah, LePage is a real model for Vermont. This is from a March ’12 release from Public Policy Polling: “Maine voters regret electing Republican Paul LePage Governor and would choose Independent Eliot Cutler if they could do the 2010 election over again, a new poll from Public Policy Polling finds. When asked who they would vote for if they could do the election over, 43% of Maine voters chose Eliot Cutler, 35% chose Paul LePage, and 19% chose Democrat Libby Mitchell. LePage suffers from a negative job approval rating, with just 41% of voters approving of his job performance and… Read more »
Walter Carpenter
3 years 11 months ago
“Vermont can learn from Maine’s governor who has rescued that state from spiraling deficits. ” Yes, we can learn what not to do. Maine’s economy is not better than ours; their new health care law actually denies more people health care, especially the most vulnerable, and does not do anything to address the out-of-control costs coupled with economic rationing that is so characteristic of our our failing health care non-system. “social programs are supposed to be temporary, when people need them, not a way of life.” Tell that to all those billionaires getting the corporate welfare that we so generously… Read more »
Ralph Colin
3 years 11 months ago

Mr. Dobbs, as he seems wont to do in his frequently inaccurate reports, didn’t even get the date of the Governor’s appearance correctly. It is Wednesday, 11 July, not the 18th.

3 years 11 months ago

Thank you for pointing out the error. It has been corrected.

Tom Licata
3 years 11 months ago
If it weren’t for my good neighbor, Jake Perkinson, I never would have considered purchasing my ticket to Sen. Brock’s event. Thank you, Jake. Years ago I was standing behind Jake, in line to vote in one of our elections, as I overheard him make derogatory remarks about religion and priests, specifically. It was classy to watch as it displayed the progressive distain for all things of virtue. For, virtue requires reverence for a higher power, that is, of our Creator-endowed rights as articulated in our Declaration of Independence, as opposed to government-contracted rights, promulgated by Vermont’s Democratic Progressives. Try… Read more »
Bob Johnson
3 years 11 months ago
HA! Funny little fairy tale. For the record, Creator can mean anything; God, aliens, your parents. The founding fathers were very specific about keeping God out of Constitution, the whole freedom of religion includes being an atheist. As for Spain, maybe you didn’t hear about the last election, where the Socialist party was removed. The right wing runs Spain now. And, just like their predecessors, they take their orders from the German government and banks that own their debt. Spanish debt to GDP ratio was going down in the leadup to the financial crisis, not up. The “running out of… Read more »
Tom Licata
3 years 11 months ago
Bob, Deception and ignorance are hallmarks of Progressives, and, Bob, you don’t disappoint. Prime Minister Zapatero and his Socialist Workers Party weren’t just “removed” in Spain’s November, 2011 elections, they were thrown out on their rear-ends, losing nearly 40% of their seats in the lower house of parliament, as it was the Socialists’ worst showing in 30 years. It was the Socialist Workers Party’s policies – much like the egalitarian and utopian policies of Vermont’s Democratic-Progressive Party & Gov. Shumlin – which brought Spain to where it is today. Shifting blame to Germany or to anyone for that matter is… Read more »
Bob Johnson
3 years 11 months ago
Tom, nice to see the lies and obfuscations of you conservatives; your response is nothing but a con job pulled by a Con. Regarding Spain, as I previously stated, they were running a fiscal surplus running up to the crisis, their problems were the result of a massive private sector housing bubble followed by a series of bank defaults, in short an unregulated private sector burning down the economy. I did not shift blame to Germany for the crisis, I pointed out the union busting, job killing austerity programs followed by BOTH parties were ordered by the German government, not… Read more »
tom price
3 years 11 months ago
Please take a few years to think about the words SOCIETY and SOCIAL and all the ways they can be used and what it all means. In the Navy I protected, in the Coast Guard it was all about rescue and recovery. This was for all, rich and poor alike. That is socialism. We take care of our own, we do not throw our own under the bus. I learned this in service to this country over the course of ten years. I am proud of my time in service and would do it again. Mr. Brock needs to think… Read more »
David Bell
3 years 11 months ago

Tom, thank you for your service and your well reasoned arguments.

Tom Licata
3 years 11 months ago

Bob, Now you are meandering all over the place – in incoherent fits and starts – which is again another hallmark of Progressivism, when stumped. This brings to mind a quote from H.L Mencken: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

Bob Johnson
3 years 11 months ago

Strange you make this claim and fail to point out a single example, or refute a single point I made. The hallmark of a pathological liar, or a typical conservative.

I’d say no one could ever go broke underestimating your intelligence.

James Gill
3 years 11 months ago

Mr. Licata, I think it is unfair to claim Mr. Johnson’s posts are a “hallmark of Progressivism”. There are many posts from other progressive minded people that are reasonable and present their position in a civil manner. Mr. Johnson has his own problems, since his posts are ‘combative’, ‘righteous’ and ‘arrogant’.

As can be seen not many Progressives come to his defense. I suspect they are embarrassed.

Bob Johnson
3 years 11 months ago

As opposed to the teams of conservatives who support the drivel you write?

David Bell
3 years 11 months ago

The only thing I find embarrassing is the utter none sense spewed at Bob, and the fact that you actually think it is worth defending.

Tom Licata
3 years 11 months ago
Tom Price: What you were doing in the Navy was securing our Creator-endowed individual liberties and defending our Constitution. What you were not doing, is social work. There is nothing preventing civil society and those individuals in civil society from “tak[ing] care of our own.” If anything, it is the very government you seemingly want to secure your necessities in life, which is inhibiting civil society’s progress and prosperity. It is not Mr. Brock who “needs to think about this and maybe change his thinking a bit,” rather, it is you. Progressivism, democratic-socialism, social democracy, pick your label, is all… Read more »
David Bell
3 years 11 months ago
Tom, The only thing we will see in the future under our current path is the same lower costs and better outcomes fostered by every country in the developed world that has adopted the same healthcare policies. Your ignorance of economics is matched only by your hypocrisy, in claiming that it is the opposition that seeks to control people. Where do you get off telling people what their service to this country means to them? To claim that the poor must be left to starve in the name of freedom, that the sick should be turned out into the street… Read more »
Bruce Post
3 years 11 months ago
David, I encourage you to follow Tom’s advice below. Learn more about Father Robert Sirico, President of the Acton Institute, which has been funded by Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater, the mercenaries-for-hire group now known as XE, and his sister Betsy DeVos, who married into the Amway empire. While on the Acton Institute website, you can purchase an interview with Sirico “on the life and ideas of best-selling author and founder of Objectivism, Ayn Rand.” Of course, you might also read the late Pope John Paul’s Ecclesia in America. I particularly liked these two sections: — “However, if globalization… Read more »
Tom Licata
3 years 11 months ago
David, “A free economy—necessarily including private property, legally enforceable contracts, and prices and interest rates freely agreed to by willing parties to transactions (not set by government bureaucrats)—is the best way to meet society’s material needs, from basic nutrition to sophisticated health care technology. Well-intentioned activists who seek to enlarge the state’s economic role are only killing the goose that laid the golden egg. The fact is, private enterprise in the free market has lifted millions out of dire poverty—far more people than state welfare or private charity have ever rescued from want. But a free economy isn’t just by… Read more »
David Bell
3 years 11 months ago
Tom, As I actually have a life, I won’t waste time providing the dissertation level analysis of the nonesense you have provided deserves; taking it down point by point. I will simply say this. The “wealth creators” in the US have are only getting wealthier, if they have been burdened in any way, it clearly does not show on their income statements or bank balances. Let me repeat, the rich have never been richer; and this absurd, inane, asinine nostrem that the rich are soaked or clobbered or pilfered from is nothing more than the delusions of the Randians who… Read more »
Stan Hopson
3 years 11 months ago

I take Licata in 5th round by TKO.

Tom Licata
3 years 11 months ago
David, et al., pick your poison: “In a word, man is regarded now… as primarily a member of society and secondarily as an individual. The rights which he [an individual] possesses are, it is believed, conferred upon him, not by his Creator [God], but rather by the society to which he belongs. What they are [man’s rights] is to be determined by the legislative authority [government] in view of the needs of that society. Social expediency, rather than natural right, is thus to determine the sphere of individual freedom of action.” – Frank Goodnow, Leading 20th century Progressive and former… Read more »
Tom Licata
3 years 11 months ago
Bruce, Classic Democratic-Progressivism, malign and denigrate the messenger, in this case, Fr. Sirico. Why can’t today’s Vermont Democratic-Progressives be more honest in their wants and desires? Like Frank Goodnow (see my prior post, above), or like Franklin Roosevelt and his Second Bill of (contracted) Rights or Woodrow Wilson and his statement that “If you want to understand the real Declaration of Independence, do not repeat the preface,” of course, the preface containing all that stuff about the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God and self-evident truths regarding our Creator-endowed unalienable Rights, strip those things out and all your left with… Read more »
Eric LeVasseur
3 years 11 months ago
If you do not like what he has to say, do not listen. Mr. Brock has every right to invite him to speak. If the voters condemn him for this affiliation, then he can blame himself. If the voters don’t condemn him, then he can pat himself on the back. “America isn’t easy. America is advanced citizenship. You’ve gotta want it bad, ’cause it’s gonna put up a fight. It’s gonna say, “You want free speech? Let’s see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who’s standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs… Read more »
wpDiscuz
Thanks for reporting an error with the story, "Brock fires back at Dems over LePage appearance criticism"