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  1. I was at the rally yesterday with the VT for Single Payer network and we were explaining to anyone who would listen what both the Brock and Galbraith amendments were about. I was actuallly surprised how many people argued with me that “illegals” SHOULDN’T have access to OUR health care. The only arguments we mustered which seemed to grab people were:
    1. Do you not want our dairy farmers in businees producing milk? Cause they couldn’t manage without workers and they couldn’t find Vermonters to do the job at the pay they were offereing.
    And if that didn’t work: 2. Do you want people producing our milk who may be coughing TB or other untreated diseases into our mil? And that usually made them pause.
    And I agreed with them that it is scandalous that we pay a whole group of people substandard wages to produce our milk, but that is another argument and one that has to be dealt with at the federal level.
    The other amendment excluding those Vermonters with a a for-profit Insurance Company, Tricare, policy which they PAY for from receiving Green Mt. Care under a single payer system is just plain wrong and I have confidence the conference committee will also strike that down. I met veterans yesterday who were incensed by the amendment, had argued with Peter Galbraith NOT to propose this, but made no headway. We concluded he simply became confused with the VA system — which nobody wants to touch and which already successfully provides free health care to a segment of veterans.
    Everyone is staying closely tuned to actions of the Conference Committee in Montpelier today.

  2. ‘Do you want people producing our milk who may be coughing TB or other untreated diseases into our mil? And that usually made them pause.’

    Extremely well put … and needs to be repeated over and over and over – ’cause diseases don’t care about legal status.

  3. The panic and drama around the “deserving” poor versus “those” people is rampant. Immigrant phobia is driving many of the poor decisions currently being made and implemented by many States, while the underlying issues of economics, injustice, poverty and joblessness get buried in racism. Excluding undocumented workers is an irrational decision and a very bad one in terms of public health. A healthy population benefits all of us. Joblessness and other real social and economic issues need to be debated and reasonable solutions found. However,lumping access to health care in with the rest of the “soup” defies common sense. The point of single payer health care is that all people have access to competent care. And the long run Vermont and all of us who live here will benefit.

    1. Well said Pam.
      We Americans have this thing for “Scare politics” and you can find it in other countries actually. France has a strong “Front Nationale” where Jean Marie LaPenne’s daughter has taken over her fathers’ right wing position as leader of the party. Immigrants soaking up their healthcare is one of the issues they use to scare people.

      Scare tactics remind me of Salem Witchcraft.

  4. When general contractors hire illegal aliens they are portrayed as evil and as exploiting a population that they know won’t complain about wages or working conditions.

    If a farmer does the same thing this is somehow rationalized as being for a greater good.

  5. people who employ illegal aliens should be put in jail and the illegal aliens deported. i hope dick sears hangs in there against all the “‘activists” that seem to enjoy cheap food prices at the expense of the underpaid and exploited illegal alien farm worker. dairy farming in vermont is on it’s way out and it is only a matter of time before the big corporate farms of the west ship all the milk in this country. in the meantime, let’s keep insurance for the people who pay for it through their taxes and residency. almost all the exploited farm workers are paid under the table and do not pay any taxes. put their employers in jail where they belong.

    1. If we put the migrant workers in jail, then we have provide them with medical care. And putting them in jail does nothing to lessen the public health hazard a seriously ill farm worker (legal status notwithstanding) can present.

      Wouldn’t it make more sense to include everyone in the health care bill and deal the immigration/economic issue separately? Be a lot less expensive then locking folks up as a starting point.

      1. Yes Rama, it most certainly would be more “Expensive than locking folks up as a starting point.” You’re correct in that while incarcerated the state would pay much more. It’s getting close to $80,000 a year to incarcerate someone in Vermont.

        “Jail” should be a very last resort for so many who are sent there. Its amazing how some of us still have this pre 1950′s hickabilly attitude about “locking people up.” The cost and consequenses are more than the average citizen is willing to comprehend.

  6. If we are a Nation of Laws as Senator Leahy put it, how can we look the other way when it comes to illegal immigrants? This is not a racist question but a legal question. If the residents of the State of Vermont want to include everyone in this plan then that’s fine with me. But it should be put to them in a referendum vote that states the Federal law. We still will be in violation of Federal law if we used Federal money for this expense.

    The second problem I have with this is the farming question. What if the farmers and the State could get the documents for the immigrants? Why do we not have a system for these folks to become part of the Vermont workforce? The benefits would be immense for the workers, the farmers and the other residents of the State. The workers would no longer have to hide in the barn when people showed up in the yard. They could contribute to the State in the form of taxes on their meager wages. They could become Americans like the Irish, the Italians, the Poles and other legal immigrants that built this State. Under the table and looking the other way benefits no one, especially the very people this ammendment would affect.

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