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  1. The coarse behavior between Vermont’s two gubernatorial candidates is not in isolation.

    Look to New York’s Andrew Cuomo and Carl Paladino, or Nevada’s Harry Reid and Sharron Angle; all over the nation, the fabric of our institutions are crumbling.

    This coarse behavior is merely a symptom.

    In 1940, as the German army was overrunning many parts of Europe and much of its economy in shambles, Winston Churchill was elevated to Prime Minister, after the resignation of Neville Chamberlain.

    Many if not most in the British Parliament detested Churchill.

    Regardless, in Churchill’s first speech to Parliament, he didn’t tell them what they wanted to hear, he didn’t tell them things that would have made him more likable, he told them what they needed to hear.

    He told them that among all the carnage and destruction, he had nothing to offer them but “Blood, Toil Tears and Sweat.”

    We need a “Blood, Toil Tears and Sweat” leader but, perhaps –and unfortunately – we’ll need a Blood, Toil Tears and Sweat” moment, before such a leader or leaders emerge.

  2. We’ve just about had that moment. Of the two, Shumlin’s the best for the job at this moment. He is not afraid to take on problems. I was there when he stopped Vermont yankee and saw what he did for the health care bill, s.88. He also stopped Douglas/Dubie’s attempts to raise property taxes and lower them for the rich. He has his flaws, but, of both candidates he is the one that can take on the problems we are facing. The article here is right about Dubie just talking Douglas’s talking points and using them as his own campaign slogans. Do we really want another series of years like that?

    I liked your analogy about Winston Churchill. You’re right that so few liked him. They did not trust him. I’ve read his biography and his speeches, and studied his WWII record. What is so amazing him is that he was drunk half the time and he still managed to pull a nation from the brink of catastrophe to victory in that awful war. He is one of the two greatest statesmen of the 20th century — the other being FDR.

  3. The elder sages, Garrison Nelson, Eric Davis, and Chris Graff take on the ‘immediate day to day fury’ of events in the Governor’s race, is somewhat accurate, but also incomplete. They left out some ‘basic staples,’ of the larger overview, that will also play out in the 2010 race. The consistent landscape and demographics of the Vermont electorate over several cycles. Hard solid data over last 10 years.

    2008 Obama 68% McCain 31% (37% point spread)
    2004 Kerry 58% Bush 38% (20% point spread)
    2000 Gore 50% Bush 40% (10% point spread)
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    2000 Howard Dean 50% / Anthony Pollina 11%/ Ruth Dwyer 38%
    (the Dean and Pollina total = 61%) (23% more than Dwyer)
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    2002 Shumlin 73,501 / Pollina 56,564/ Dubie 84,044 (39%)
    (the Shumlin and Pollina total = 61%) (22% more than Dubie)
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    2002 Shumlin and Pollina vote total = 130,065
    2002 Doug Racine vote total = 97,565
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    There was a three way race for Governor in 2002,(Racine, Douglas, and Hogan) and some say Con Hogan got more Democratic swing votes than Republican swing votes. Douglas probably won because of that. What was clear the “non Republican vote” was split in two piles in 2002, in both Governor and Lt Governor races. In a very long time, that is not the case now in 2010, and this will have a large impact on the 2010 results. Peter Clavelle 2004, Scudder Parker 2006, Gaye Symington 2008, were sadly very weak Democratic candidates. In comparison, Peter Shumlin is much much more powerful, resourceful, articulate and able candidate in 2010. The Democratic Party is unified. And the Democratic and Progressive voter bloc, state wide, are unified on this race. That has not happened, quite like it is happening now, in over 10 years.

    Vermont is one of the bluest states in the nation, and becomes more blue each cycle, 2000 through 2008. Look at the hard data above.

    Financial resources are a serious concern in mid September, however, the Shumlin, Leahy, Welch, Howard Dean, Barack Obama apparatus should have a remedy for that by mid October.

    And with good luck President Obama will be making a New England tour, and with more good luck, Vermont will be wisely included. Why would a 2008 Vermont Barack Obama voter, vote for a George W. Bush Republican like Brian Dubie in 2010.

    The Vermont elder sages gave us an interesting accessment of the ‘immediate,’ the fire and heat of the last week. Not enough of the larger overview. Both will come together, in greater luminosity of light, with results, by election day.

    The General Election Governor’s race is just beginning. Six (6) ‘fascinating’ weeks remain. Shumlin will win. By more than a nose!

  4. Reading this (and many other stories) generates a question for me. When will Vermont’s “media” use sources other than Eric Davis, Garrison Nelson and Chris Graff when reporting on Vermont politics? There has to be someone else in a state of 621,760 people who has an informed political opinion, right?

  5. One additional thought not listed in comments below, or adequately mentioned from sages Nelson, Davis, an Graff. Brian Dubie is a likable fellow and a decent person, almost all agree on that, however, he really comes from the John McClaughry/Ruth Dwyer right wing of the Republican Party.

    He is not a liberal Republican in the tradition of a Jim Jeffords, a Bob Stafford, a George Aiken, or a Jim Oakes, or the early Tom Hayes. To be honest Brian Dubie comes from the far right wing of the Republican Party. Who in the Vermont Republican Party is more conservative than Brian? No one comes to mind, right! And with his 2010 economic platform, he fully embraces (with obvious enthusiasm!) George W. Bush policies 100%, help the rich and well to do, over the enhanced hardship and struggles of just about everyone else. In truth Brian Dubie is a John McClaughry/Ruth Dwyer right wing Vermont Republican. That might of helped him in a political campaign in Vermont in 1950, it will not help him in Vermont in 2010. Again, look at the demographic shift of Vermont elections (2000, 2004, 2008) below.

    Lastly, Brian can now only run a ‘campaign of distortions.’ He can not run on his right wing record, or his right wing ideas, they are not 2010 mainstream Vermont. He knows that. So he runs a textbook ‘campaign of distortions,’ trying to portray Peter Shumlin different from what he is, and what Peter Shumlin is honestly advocating. Look at Dubie’s daily news releases and media ads. Just a ‘campaign of distortions.’ That is all Brian Dubie has left. Try to paint a falsehood. It will not work. The vast majority of Vermonters, all perceptive and can not be fooled,(even by feeble attempts by not very Vermont savvy Cory Bliss) will see through that contrived artificial veneer, by election day. The 68% of Vermont that voted for Barack Obama in 2008 are pretty smart. And they will all be voting in Vermont in 2010!

  6. Some Light Is Shining Through:

    Sat 9/25/2010 Times Argus/Rutland Herald(front page)
    “HOGAN:SHUMLINS PRISON PLAN CAN WORK

    Fri 9/24/2010 Burlington Free Press (front page)
    “IBM DENIES DUBIE CLAIM”

    Both articles are worth reading.
    Truth is being clarified.

  7. Web site direct links for articles mentioned below can be found here. Excellent information. Essential reading.

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    “IBM: DENIES DUBIE CLAIM” Fri 9/24/2010 (front page)
    http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/201009240600/NEWS02/100924001
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    “HOGAN: SHUMLINS PLAN CAN WORK” Sat 9/25/2010 (front page)
    http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20100925/NEWS03/709259886/1004
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    “HOGAN: SHUMLINS PRISION PLAN CAN WORK” Sat 9/25/2010
    (front page)
    http://www.timesargus.com/article/20100925/NEWS02/709259905
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