Shumlin: Green Mountain Care financing options not ready for prime time

Gov. Peter Shumlin announced a three-phase infrastructure investment plan across Chittenden County during a news conference Tuesday at Williston Town Hall. Photo by John Herrick/VTDigger

Gov. Peter Shumlin at a news conference in November. Photo by John Herrick/VTDigger

Gov. Peter Shumlin won’t introduce tax options to pay for a universal health care system this year, despite promising on several occasions that they would be presented to lawmakers before the end of the legislative session.

“We’re not ready, it’s as simple as that,” Shumlin said at a press conference Monday.

Making the transition to universal health care is the most important move to improve job growth and Vermonters’ prosperity in the state’s history, Shumlin said.

“All I’m saying is let’s get this right. That’s more important than meeting some arbitrary deadlines,” he said.

However, all deadlines at this point are self-imposed, because Shumlin missed the statutory requirement to present financing options in January 2013.

Shumlin stressed the complexity of the transition to Green Mountain Care, the state’s planned publicly financed universal health care program, adding that it requires reforming the delivery of health care as well as how it’s paid for.

“This is not like flipping a switch,” Shumlin said several times during the press appearance.

But Republicans have accused Shumlin of playing politics with his financing plans, and said he’s putting off the tax options until after the upcoming election.

“The administration chose to ignore the law’s deadlines, leaving the cynical among us to observe that this is all a political stunt, conveniently spread out over three election cycles,” wrote Senate Minority Leader Joe Benning, R-Caledonia, in a commentary in VTDigger earlier this year.

Republicans have yet to field a serious challenger for Shumlin’s job, but they note that supporting what is widely expected to be the largest tax increase in state history could hurt Democrats in down-ballot races.

Having greater detail on the taxes Shumlin would use to pay for Green Mountain Care could give them more fodder, but it’s also possible not releasing those details could yield plenty of talking points for Republicans as well.

Shumlin may have provided his critics with another one Monday.

Asked if he could name two other options besides the widely discussed payroll tax that could pay for, or help to pay for, universal health care Shumlin said, “Sure, bubble gum and lollipops.”

As recently as Feb. 27, Michael Costa, the administration’s health care financing expert, told lawmakers on the House Ways and Means Committee that he expected they would enumerate financing options in the spring.

Asked in the hallway after delivering his testimony when specifically that would be, Costa said, “I’m not sure, to be candid.”

Shumlin said the decision to delay unveiling the finance options was made over the past several weeks.

“We have a very good business advisory group … that’s helping us to put together a package that will work for Vermonters as well as for businesses,” he said. “As we’ve gotten into the weeds of the various details that need to be ready to lay out a menu of options, there’s pretty broad agreement that we’re just not there yet.”

Shumlin offered a slightly different rationale for the delay last week on Vermont Public Radio.

“I’m saying to my team, ‘don’t spend a lot of time getting committees that won’t even be the same committees working on something that isn’t going to be voted on anyway, and that we don’t have the answers for yet,’” he said during an interview on “Vermont Edition.”

Shumlin was adamant Monday that he didn’t believe waiting to lay out the financing options would set back plans to launch Green Mountain Care.

“We’re going to take the time we need to get it right without slowing down, I hope, the goal of having this done on January 1st, 2017,” he said.

The Legislature has a number of committees looking at all aspects of the transition to Green Mountain Care, and that’s been the case throughout the session, Shumlin said.

But Janet Ancel, D-Calais, who leads one of those committees, said Shumlin’s decision to put off the financing plan might change how she allocates her committee time.

“We’ve spent two to three hours a week on health care all session, and my thinking has been that the more knowledge my committee members have the better,” said the Ways and Means chair. “I think the only thing I need to reassess is if we should keep doing that this session.”

Morgan True

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Walter Cooper
2 years 10 months ago

I had saved to replace my roof this summer and pour a new floor in my garage. I will hold off now. We are neither land-wealthy Boomers nor Trustafarians, but we make a decent living–all from sources out of state. Sadly, I am preparing to sell. A forty year old with two kids in local schools. Vermont doesn’t want or understand a middle class.

Michael Stahler
2 years 10 months ago

Two points: first, the Gov is breaking the law and NOBODY seems to care. He was supposed to outline how to pay for it over a year ago AFTER THAT election. Second, he only reason why he is holding off is that this is an election year. Might as well call a spade a spade.

And his flip answer only shows that he is not taking the gravity of the policy change seriously.

2 years 10 months ago

Vermonters for Health Care Freedom has been trying to hold Gov. Shumlin accountable for a finance plan and we were the first to expose this last January when he and Secretary Spaulding failed to follow the law (Act 48) then. The Governor has been legislating from the 5th floor and it’s time for Vermonters to rise up and hold Shumlin and the legislature accountable or scrap this health care scam.

Dave Bellini
2 years 10 months ago

The Governor has become too cocky about this. He doesn’t think ethics apply to him, he ignores the laws he sponsors and his word has become meaningless. He reminds me of the old movie character: “Lonesome Rhodes” from the movie: Face In A Crowd played by Andy Griffith. All he needs is a guitar……….

Stan Hopson
2 years 10 months ago
The Governor is channeling his inner Harry Reid. Just last week the Senate Majority leader from Nevada stated on the floor of his chamber “all those Obamacare horror stories are lies”. Leadership is not ignoring the woes of others, especially unwarranted pain and suffering like many Vermonters have had to endure during the rollout and after with sub par and more expensive coverage. The Governor and his legislative allies can cling to the feel good stories of a few uninsured in better position now, but the aggregate population isn’t better off today then before Shumlin was elected. Not being forthright… Read more »
Kathy Callaghan
2 years 10 months ago

This reminds me of Lucy in Peanuts who keeps holding the football and then pulling it out from under the kicker at the last minute. The footbball is single payer financing, we Vermonters are the kicker and Shumlin is Lucy.

With both Vermont Health Connect and single payer, I find myself wavering between “This is a man who truly doesn’t know what he’s doing” and “He knows but he thinks he’s the only one who needs to know”.

The first one is scary, but the second one is even scarier.

Walter Carpenter
2 years 10 months ago

“The first one is scary, but the second one is even scarier.”

What if he is right and the finances do need that long to simply sort out from the medley of confusion they are now into something resembling sanity and a system?

Jim Barrett
2 years 10 months ago

What if???? No laws should be passed when no one has a clue as to costs and where the money is to come from!

Peter Liston
2 years 10 months ago

I’m sure that you were against the war on Iraq for the same reason.

Craig Powers
2 years 10 months ago

Take your marbles and go home….

Jamie Carter
2 years 10 months ago

“However, all deadlines at this point are self-imposed, because Shumlin missed the statutory requirement to present financing options in January 2013.”

As noted, Shumlin is in violation of a duly passed and enacted state statute making him a state criminal and subject to impeachment by the House. Impeachment should be beyond politics and while this “crime” may not warrant removal from office, it is the duty of the House to impeach the Governor for his crime against the state and allow the Senate to determine his punishment.

Paging Don Turner and Shap Smith….

Ralph Colin
2 years 10 months ago
First he paid 300 grand to Dr. Hsu of Harvard to develop a plan for Green Mountain Care. With the Doctor’s financing suggestions obviously unworkable, Dr. Slick then paid another 300 grand to UMass , Amherst to get around Hsu’s offering. The guys from Amherst said it would cost around $1.6B, an apparent lowball figure, and they were told NOT to release a financing plan which they were also supposed to publicize because when he saw what they had to say, he began to feel a dampness in his undershorts. Wendy Wilton, who received no funds from the state government,… Read more »
Jim Barrett
2 years 10 months ago

I totally agree with you and you put the story in a nice context. Until we march seriously on Montpelier!

Stan Hopson
2 years 10 months ago

Until you get 5000 people camping out on the Capitol steps for days protesting, our Governor and his crony legislators will keep obfuscating, bobbing and weaving and the press will just do the arbitrary “wow, still no financing plan huh? story and move on to a smaller dumpster fire.

These people need to feel the heat, until then you get what you elected people.

Gail Graham
2 years 10 months ago

As I have been saying for a long time now, the only difference bet. Shumlin and OB, is government status, esp. with the HC debacle they have managed to screw up, both Federally and for the State of Vt. I don’t think either one of them has a clue how they are going to dig their way out it. They have both cost us (tax payers) more $$ than we will ever really know.

2 years 10 months ago

The picture says it all. Poor fellow. His hair isn’t even combed.

What would be the political cost to Gov. Shumlin if he simply admitted defeat?

At this point, throwing in the towel and walking away may be of some personal benefit.

David Dempsey
2 years 10 months ago

If Phil Scott doesn’t run for governor, the Republicans might as well let Shumlin win and then sit back a watch the Shumlin Administration collapse and burn.

2 years 10 months ago
Devastating Diagnosis – Green Mountain Care 2017 a prognosis by H. Brooke Paige Vermont (January 2017) – Peter Shumlin’s socialist dreams of “universal, single payer healthcare” have mutated into a nightmare over the past five years. The utopian dream of healthcare for all was never properly explained nor fully understood by Vermonters. The working poor thought that it would be the “free care” that they saw those on welfare receiving. Most believed the promises that their healthcare providers and the level of care they were receiving would somehow continue – while the cost of care would be greatly reduced through… Read more »
Bill Gardyne
2 years 10 months ago

Your future vision is a very clear window into a quite possible outcome of our Governor’s current path to single payer health. Hopefully some of the more rational Dems will see this handwriting on the wall and back off their support before it’s too late. VT is not a Country and it doesn’t print it’s own money.

eric adler
2 years 7 months ago
I just heard Brook Paige running down single payer health care on VPR’s Vermont Edition. I didn’t get to ask him my question: The Commonwealth Fund surveyed health care provided by 11 industrialized countries between 2003 and 2014. The US came in at number 11 every time. They looked at cost, access, wait times, effectiveness of treatment and health of the population. Britain, with a single payer system, came in at number one and cost $3,056 annually per person, with the US most expensive at $8,503. The average cost for each doctor of dealing with insurance companies in the… Read more »
rosemarie jackowski
2 years 10 months ago

There are still too many unanswered questions. The president said that if you liked your doctor you could keep him. We now see how that is working out.

The other big question is: “If you like your house can you keep it”. What is Vermont doing to answer that question? Who is in charge? Where should Vermonters go for answers?

Maybe Washington will save us….or maybe not. This is not going to end well.

Please see:

2 years 10 months ago
Rosemary, I have looked into what you just wrote, and apparently, in most of the 23 Obamacare Medicaid expansion states, of which Vermont is one, the estates of people aged 55 to 64 can have assets seized to pay back Medicaid expenses those individuals incurred during that time, after their death. It’s unclear whether this is just for long-term care, for actual expenses incurred, or for a per-capita levy even if you never got care under your Medicaid plan. (A couple of states in the Northwest have gotten rid of this aspect of Obamacare because folks with significant assets were… Read more »
rosemarie jackowski
2 years 10 months ago

Ellin…Yes. It is very complicated. I have been in communication with some legislators. They tell me that Vermont is not presently doing the ‘claw-back’ on some Medicaid expenses today. What about tomorrow? We need a firm policy – a commitment BEFORE anyone signs up. We are waiting. We are at risk. We need information. We need an open public discussion. We need to protect family farms and family homes, even from long term care ‘claw-back’.

Like I keep saying – we need dental, vision, and long term care in any health care plan.

Please see:

Matt Fisken
2 years 10 months ago
Maybe Gov. Shumlin was serious and meant that we should tax the heck out of bubblegum and lollipops. It’s plain as day that non-nutritive “foods” including soda are causing many of the chronic health problems that so heavily burden our healthcare system. Let’s just put a 100% tax on gum, candy and soda and stop fretting over how it would hurt all the mom and pop stores or be “regressive.” Sugar is hurting us all, even the people who abstain because their health care premiums are much higher than the benefits they get from having insurance. And while we’re at… Read more »
Lee Stirling
2 years 10 months ago

With his snarky “bubble gum and lollipops” reply, Governor Shumlin essentially tells those seeking answers to go ____ themselves (insert 4-letter word). Nice Gov. Nice.

Jim Barrett
2 years 10 months ago
This is again a government sham that was voted for and signed onff by Shumlin without having a clue as to how much this would cost. Every representative who voted for this socilaized insurance program and Shumlin should be held accountable and there is now proof that they ignored looking at costs and who would pay for this mess. We have lapdogs in the legislature who are obviously more worried about where lunch will be held to know or care about costs. We are being victimized by not knowing how and who is going to pay for this ripoff. A… Read more »
Paul Lorenzini
2 years 10 months ago

Please, do not run for governor, if you do not support this philosophy. Let Shumillionaires own the results of their decisions. We must not attempt to float their boat, the are the captains and should sink with the ship they built.

Paul Lorenzini
2 years 10 months ago
I actually feel a little sympathy for the governor, he is under a lot of pressure from the friends he chose, and I believe he is starting to see the folly of their ways. Big ideas that necessitate the confiscation of others wealth in order to enact them. It won’t work, and I think all the delays are a reflection of truth that between the takers, the ones in power and the ones considered needy, there is a free minded people that will not allow the tyranny necessary to enact a progressive socialist agenda. Who are the greedy ones? Is… Read more »
Ellen Fiske
2 years 10 months ago
I am worried that if we try to let Shumlin and his cronies go down with their own ship (by voting them into office again), we will get more bills like school board consolidation, police tasing people willy nilly, expedited non-emergency forced psychiatric medicating, and on and on and on and then we will have a lot of work to do just to dig out of it. This paying for the single payer mess isn’t even the worst part of what Shumlin has been up to. We need a new governor, and not a Democrat. I don’t care whether it’s… Read more »
Mike Dunbar
2 years 10 months ago

Shumlin’s flip response to a very important question that will impact us all is a very clear indicator of what kind of man he is. You can tell he grew up milking the family business.

Lyle M. Miller, Sr.
2 years 16 days ago

The sad part of all of this discussion is that with all of the information pointing to Shumlin’s deliberately holding back on the information until after the election is public knowledge now and all of the Legislators are aware of his lying, but the chances are very good that they will send him back to the Governor’s office this week instead of sending him packing and Vermont will be the worse for it.

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