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  1. With vocabulary like “miscreants” and “opprobrium”, you’re at risk of raising the intellectual level of discussion and consideration, here. Thanks. Now, I’m going to donate to VTDigger !
    It’s refreshing to get beyond the status quo 5th grade reading level in print media.
    Also, I appreciate primary source references and direct quotes– not a lazy writer’s approach.
    I teach VT Hunter Safety classes, so watching these bums get bagged is a joy to see.

  2. I don’t teach hunter safety, but i missed the video where I can watch these bums get bagged.

    1. Missouri posts a bunch of these videos on You tube which are illustrations of avarice leading to conviction. Vermont law enforcement are more discreet with their videos, although I’ve seen them at Hunter Safety instructors’ trainings. None of them are starving, however.

  3. Agree with Kevin. Beautifully written piece. Well done.

  4. Very well written piece, good contextual information and prime sources. Really well done, Andrew, Thanks.

  5. In the 1950 and 60′s I knew a few poachers but they were known as nimrods. What they did is shoot illegal deer and supply the meat at a very low cost, or as a trade, to families that lived in their town and could not afford much of anything. They were known to the officials but often the wardens would look the other way, as they considered them doing a needed service to a part of the community.

  6. What I wish this article had covered is the issue of what actually constitutes “poaching.” What makes certain acts of hunting illegal? And what infractions account for most poaching? I also wonder what the public can do to help stop poaching, and what the penalties are.

  7. Eric: There’s a lot that had to be left out, unfortunately, in the 1200 word limit we put on the In This State column. That includes material on the founding of the game warden service back in 1904. Before that it was done haphazardly by towns and counties and wardens got half the penalties of folks they caught through a process called “moiety” a word I had never heard of! Needless to say it was open to, and was, abused.
    Big game laws in Vermont can take a few words to explain and you can get deep into the details, but basically they involve not hunting from the road, not hunting after dark (especially getting deer to freeze with a flashlight, or deer-jacking) and not using illegal weapons (a crossbow, for example, or a bow and arrow during rifle season, or rifle during bow season). It’s also illegal, obviously, to take deer out-of-season and to shoot bucks without horns or to shoot does, though Vermont does institute doe seasons when the herd needs to be thinned. Hunters are also limited to the number of deer they can legally take. These rules arre all based on preserving a healthy deer herd – and the income it brings in, and enjoyment folks get from seeing them.
    Considering a license is only around $20, poaching is not an issue of money, and wardens turn over a lot of the illegal deer they find to charity, game suppers or to folks who need the food – which goes to Peter’s point. There’s little rational reason to take deer illegally, and as the story illustrates, most folks who do it are in it for an odd thrill or escapade that’s impromptu and not very well thought out.

  8. When someone takes a deer out of season it’s “stealing from everyone” but the government does it all day long and it’s called a “voluntary contribution” of your “fair share.” Too funny. I’m not condoning illegal activity, but when someone takes a deer to feed his family I don’t put that in the same bracket as drunk driving, rape and embezzling. Guess you could call it “unauthorized herd management.”

    1. Ralph,

      Theft is Theft. Shooting a deer illegally, by no means, is justified by the ends(feeding a hungry family).
      That is stealing from “The Public Trust”. Under YOUR justification, feeding a hungry family “justifies” stealing from a store or farmer. Sorry it is still stealing.

      BTW Shooting deer(poaching/ taking by illegally means) has never been “an excuse” the game wardens have run into in over a decade that has been “legitimate”. Majority of violators are taking “pot shots” at deer and the others for their own self-interests.

      1. Mr. Smith,

        Excepting an occasional foray above the posted speed limit I meticulously adhere to all known laws. That said, be assured your elevated moral and ethical sensibilities are duly noted, and no doubt provide you considerable contentment. Despite your contrived comparison regarding taking a deer out of season with stealing from a merchant misrepresenting my somewhat tongue-in-cheek post, it does present interesting food for thought. And in fact I do see these two behaviors as being quite different. I originally come from a very rural town in Vermont where as a lad I did know people who took deer to feed their families. You see, for some Vermonters, deer meat could be their only food on any given evening, and they may prefer that to being on the dole. Stealing directly from a farmer or merchant and adversely affects that particular person, and I know for sure some who might take a deer out of season would never consider stealing from any merchant. Taking a deer out of season has an immediate affect on no one, and in fact, more often than not, no one else even knows about it. Kind of akin to the question if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make any noise. I still do not condone it, but if it feeds someone’s kids, so be it.

        By the way, I’ve known a few folk over the years who took a couple more than their limit of trout for the day too, but they ate them. I don’t reckon I’ll turn them in even though I’d never do it myself.

        1. Ralph,

          “a tree falls in the woods” comparison?

          Mr Smith is right “Stealing is still Stealing”. Your justification does not justify it.

          So if someone steals from a bank that has billions of dollar or from the government, they won’t notice.
          Why don’t I go out and cut a tree down in the state forest. I need the wood to heat my home and my family warm.

          Game Wardens and State Police have a list that those that need the meat can get on and will be notified when a deer is available LEGALLY!

          Like Mr Nemethy says in his comment, the majority of these scofflaws are “thrill seekers” not starving families.

  9. Congrats to Vt Digger and Andrew for a well written article. The Game Wardens in Vermont and across the US are a very thin “green line” between the poachers and our wildlife.
    It is a sad fact that with only 27 full-time Wardens we have 5 fewer Wardens than in 1971. We didn’t have moose or turkeys back then and about 1/2 the current human population to boot.
    The primary reason we have so few Wardens, in spite of the high demand for their services, is lack of money. Wardens are are paid for in large part only from hunting/fishing/trapping license sales. They get no Federal money and very little State general fund money. As our license sales have slowly declined and expenses have increased the Department has been forced to reduce the number of Wardens.
    A group of environmental and conservation/hunting organizations have formed a Vermont Wildlife Partnership with a core purpose of finding adequate, sustainable and reliable funding for the Fish and Wildlife Department and other conservation work here in Vermont. The bottom line is somehow all Vermonters need to help pay for the protection of our wildlife – hunters and anglers can’t raise enough money to do the job we all demand.
    Google Vermont’s Wildlife at the Crossroads for a full write up on the problem and possible solutions

  10. I know this is a late post but hunting with a bow and arrow during rifle season is not illegal, in fact I know a few hunters who use a bow in all the deer seasons (bow, rifle and muzzleloader). They like the challange which is what hunting is all about.

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