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  1. Thank you Bill for your thought and discussion-provoking commentary. I applaud you citizen social criticism, akin to our citizen legislature and select boards. It’s a public gift that you offer which I appreciate.

  2. ” . . troubled by the fact that much of current college work is remedial high school work.”

    Seems to me this is an admissions issue. Why do higher ed institutions admit students who are not qualified for college-level work? Is there a connection between lowered admissions standards and the need to maintain adequate cash flow to support investments in bloated campus infrastructure?

    I can’t help but think that raising college and university admission standards would go along way towards improving the rigor of our high schools.

    1. Um, for cold hard cash?

  3. Here’s my little gum in the works: CCV as originally envisioned was a community level educational resource aimed at the life long learners – as well as those who need different types of credits to move on to more formal higher education.

    If we fold CCV into the current state university/college system it will forever lose the community mission and instead become what is being pushed now: a college for those who can’t afford other locations.

    I don’t think that is good for Vermont.

  4. I occasionally encounter a young person with a high school diploma that is illiterate. Or kids that cannot make change without the aid of a machine. I agree with Schubart’s April 20 post that points to parents, not schools. “Education’s failing grades begin in the home, not in the school.”(Slip Slidin’ Away-April 20 Digger) There are many examples of outstanding students whose parents speak a different language at home and yet we continue to hear the same whine from educators that this is somehow insurmountable. It’s not. Or we have to break it all down by race or parental income or some newly diagnosed, previously unheard of disorder. ANYTHING is better than having someone actually take responsibility for poor performance.

  5. I would love to go back to college to earn another degree or a certificate to help make a course change in life. Yet, when I look at the options in Vermont, each one, even CCV, will put me thousands or tens of thousands in debt. Having clawed my way out of student debt once before, I am not that eager to do it again. So I just do not bother with it. We will get better use of our colleges and universities if we somehow find a way to make it so that people could actually go to school without fear of bankruptcy.

    1. Kind of sad isn’t it Walter?

      You’d think colleges and universities would help keep us out of debt and show us that higher education is truly accessable to adults.

      This is an embarrassment. Education and capitalism don’t seem to mix that well.

    2. Excellent point. It’s impossible forf many to become “adult learners” without becoming “adult debtors.” I recall the exorbiant, per credit, cost of area colleges when I looked into them several years ago. “Financial aid” means taking on large debt. Too many Americans have debt trouble and I’m not aware of any institution of higher learning that has an answer to that. College today is a business first and foremost. They have a product and they want to sell it for as much as they can, to as many as they can. Last week’s article on license requirements and associated fees is another barrier for working people.

    3. No fear of bankruptcy! That’s illegal. Isn’t that comforting?

  6. “Last week’s article on license requirements and associated fees is another barrier for working people.”

    This country is out to screw the working people as much as it can anyway so why not add another barrier to go along with all the rest of them, including the exorbitant costs of higher education. If I lived in any other industrial/technological nation I could go back for far less costs than here. While my taxes might be higher, I would not face what we face now. Here is a New York Times article about it. They want colleges to be bastions of the elite like they once more or less were.

    http://www.freep.com/article/20120513/NEWS06/205130521/College-graduates-are-crushed-by-debt

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