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  1. You have to savor the hypocrisy on this one. Mr. Welch is lamenting the influence of 501(c)4 organizations in politics, while sharing the microphone with the Executive Director of a 501(c)4 organization (VPIRG). If Mr. Welch is serious about reducing the influence of such organizations in politics, perhaps he should take a couple steps away from Mr. Burns.

  2. Mr. Cashman,

    Yes, it is true that VPIRG is a 501(c)4 org (since 1972, according to their annual report). This type of org was traditionally defined by the IRS as a “social welfare agency”. Since the Supreme Court’s “Citizens United” decision, it has allowed Super PACs to be qualified as 501(c)4 orgs. Super PACs exist merely to flood the TV and radio with political ads (mostly negative).

    Orgs like VPIRG and “Vermonters for Health Care Freedom” are both 501(c)4 orgs. They may occasionally produce and place newspaper, TV, radio and Internet ads. But they have a mission beyond merely producing campaign ads.

    So there is a nuanced difference between Super PACs and other 501(c)4 orgs like VPIRG and VFHCA (which by the way are on opposite sides of the political spectrum). VPIRG focuses on environmental and other issues. VFHCA focuses on the healthcare issue. In contrast, Super PACs exist primarily to produce campaign ads to attack political opponents (individuals or parties).

    Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS is a Super PAC and not a “social welfare agency” as defined by the IRS.

    http://www.vpirg.org/about
    http://www.vthealthcarefreedom.org/mission
    http://www.irs.gov/charities/nonprofits/article/0,,id=96178,00.html

  3. Mr. Pulcer,
    You’re making an artificial distinction. 501(c)4 organizations advocate for issues, or in the case of VPIRG a list of issues. Those issues may consist of the organization being for or against a particular question, just as with any political party and that same kind of list of positions would be called a “platform” when applied to a political party. The mechanism by which various 501(c)4 organizations attempt to move their platform forward varies by organization, but whether or not a 501(c)4 chooses to incorporate advertising or lobbying is irrelevant when the end state is the same; to win their issue.
    I’m all for getting the influence of all 501(c)4 organizations out of politics. So why not start with a local, heavy handed and over represented organization such as VPIRG.

  4. Mr. Cashman,

    Would you also apply the same approach to “local, heavy handed and over represented organizations” and “getting the influence of all 501(c)4 organizations out of politics” to VHCF (Vermonters for Health Care Freedom”? VPIRG and VHCF are both “issue-oriented” 501(c)4′s operating in Vermont.

    In contrast, the 5 Super PACs backing the 5 top Presidential candidates appear to be less about “issues”, and more about “carpet bombing” their political opponents with negative ads. At this point, Mitt Romney’s related Super PAC has the most money and is able to “attack” his opponents, but does very little to educate the voting public about the “issues”. They all do it, and I’m sure President Obama’s related Super PAC will also be attacking Mitt Romney, and giving us little info about the “issues”.

    Former Gov. Mitt Romney – Restore Our Future
    http://restoreourfuture.com/

    Former Sen. Rick Santorum – Red, White and Blue Fund
    http://rwbfund.com/

    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich – Winning Our Future
    http://www.winningourfuture.com/

    Rep. Ron Paul – Endorse Liberty
    http://www.endorseliberty.com/home.php

    President Barack Obama – Priorities USA Action
    http://www.prioritiesusaaction.org/

    I’m sure they are “not coordinating” with their Super PACs (wink, wink, nod, nod)!

    I would much rather see ads about local issues from VPIRG and VHCF than have Presidential candidates attack-ad each other and not deal with details of issues.

    All of these orgs are 501(c)4′s. But there is a big difference between ads about “issues” than Super PAC ads about “candidates”.

  5. Mr. Pulcer,
    In regards to your first question, absolutely. Though I see VPIRG as a more significant threat as it has infested Vermont politics for a significantly longer time.
    As to the second part of your response, I just don’t understand it. You complain of national level usurpation of the political process by monied interests, yet forgive the same infection conducted in the same way when it happens on the local level? It’s inconsistent and illogical.

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