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  1. I just wonder if the problem of police discrimination is handed to, promoted by, or otherwise condoned by the officers and their supervisors as an underlying rule or a bad attitude that has never been addressed. Obviously there is a problem and it is being addressed. That’s the GOOD NEWS.

  2. The Burlington Police needs to have a specific and public process to bring about a formal complaint against a police officer.

    According to Lt. Stubbing of the BPD “There is no process for filing a complaint against a police officer.”

    I believe that there really IS a process but that the City of Burlington hires “Community Relations” officers to try and discourage complaints from being filed.

    This makes the City Attorney’s office look bad.

    Christian Noll
    BS/MS criminal justice

  3. “Aggregated race data, that doesn’t track traffic stops for hispanic, asians and blacks and may not provide a clear picture of police behavior, according to Robert Apple, executive director of the Vermont Human Rights Commission.”

    Is an incomplete sentence.

    If you remove the word “and” between the words “black” and “may,” it would make it grammatically correct.

    As it stands now, it is an incomplete sentence.

  4. It appears that Noll and Barham have made up their minds that police misconduct and discrimination are behind the numbers even though the study doesn’t answer the question of WHY. Before leaping to conclusions, why not continue the studies and find out why the disparitiyexist?

    1. Jim thanks,

      The report was completed by two universities which don’t even offer studies nor have departments in criminal justice.
      So I find it interesting that you’d have an institution completing a report which is not exactly within the realm of their expertise.

      Sure I’m all for understanding “Why.”

      One of my points is that racial profiling is an old phenomena. It isn’t new at all.

      I think its great that we’re addressing this, but we’re only taking data from the police themselves and it only includes, “Traffic stops” or “Arrests.”

      Public citizens have been profiled by the police for decades and race is but only one of the ways they do so.

      My “Conclusion” is based on my many years of studying it as well as my own personal experiece as a victim.

      So yes Mr. Candon, lets “continue the studies and find out why the disparity exist.” I just don’t think you’ll like the results of what we find.

  5. If one looks carefully at the “tickets” given for vehicle and driving violations, they are “COMPLAINTS” filed by a police officer. As I understand the system, a policeperson is certified, trained, and sworn to tell the truth and thereby authorized to file a formal complaint. A citizen may also file a complaint but citizens do not have a legal pad of complaints printed by the State of Vermont and a process with which to file said complaint. That is lopsided justice wherever you stand on the issue of filing complaints.

    1. Alex nice one and good catch.

      There should be a known and official process posted to the public on how one files a complaint against a particular officer or group of officers.

      Instead the Burlington Police Department has a specific officer assigned, usually under the title “Community Relations Officer” to try and disuade or discourage anyone from filing a complant, OR even knowing how to do so.

      In my case Lt. Stuebbing flat out denied knowing anything about how one files a complaint about police. She also seemed kind of aggitated and suspicious.

      The city of Burlington needs to be more responsible and open about this type of procedure. Trying to cover it up or deny that this process exists makes the police department look dishonest and unprofessional.

      I agree Alex, it IS “lopsided justice wherever you stand.”

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