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  1. The system is not working at all. Common sense changes need to be made yesterday to avoid such tragedy. Vermonters deserve much better.

  2. Strict enforcement of speed laws protects lives and damage to property. Letting people go faster and faster by lax enforcement only plays a game rather than enforces the law.

  3. Way to go Senator Harold Giard! This is despicable!

    Thank you Cindy Ellen Hill.

    More and more frequently, I too have noticed a “KGB” style, non marked car approach to pulling moterists over. Burlington and South Burlington Police have been given too much money.

    Did you know its illegal to flash your headlights at on comming traffic warning them about a police cruiser waiting for them? Did you know why? Because it gets them to slow down. If they slow down they can’t be as easily written up for speeding. Think about it. We wouldn’t want you to slow down would we?

    “There IS a bit of arrogance in the Vermont State Police, and not a small bit either.” Its about time and you can say that again.

    Sadly senator Giard is correct here. Many have seen a large influx of misconduct in various forms among state and local law enforcement, particularly in the past ten to twelve years.

    There is a threshold of law enforcement, which is becoming more and more definable, that crosses over into inhibiting the very security in which they were meant to protect.

    This is not the Vermont Tradition, and in fact, its quite the opposite.

    If our laws don’t reflect our standing values then CHANGE THE LAWS !

  4. True enough Alex but there’s a fine line between law enforcement and cash collection. If you don’t keep law enforcement in line they do tend to become insular and self-serving.

  5. I’m sorry to see this happening in Vermont.

    I am a SAR Field Coordinator in New Mexico, one of those few states in which SAR is run through State Police. New Mexico State Police has a SAR Resource Office whose function is to work with volunteer teams around the state. The Resource Officer certifies teams that meet the requirements for being a state recognized resource. The Resource Office also certifies the SAR volunteers that are interested in being mission managers . . . from Section Chiefs to Field Coordinators like myself. State law requires we run SAR missions according to the ICS System.

    As a Field Coordinator, I am on call for a week on a rotating schedule with other FCs. When a call comes into 9-1-1 about someone lost or hurt in our wildernesses, State Police immediately investigate the circumstances surrounding the call. If they determine the call is legitimate they call the Field Coordinator on call in that district. The FC responses and is usually in route to the scene within 30 minutes, no matter what time of night or day. They become the Incident Commander for that mission and call in appropriate resources primarily from the volunteer teams around the state but also including assets such as the National Guard, etc.

    We have a great working relationship with New Mexico State Police. To me, our system seems to work best from the various systems I have investigated.

    I would suggest you contact the New Mexico State SAR Resource Officer, Bob Rodgers. He could assist or recommend standards and procedures similar to how we do things out west.

    Sincerely;
    Gary Cascio

  6. Have attended VT Police Academy twice as elected Constable. Quite noticeable both times was a definite Us(the cops) versus Them (the public) attitude. Seems to be working, eh?

  7. I would not rely on the State Police, if it was my friend I would call it in as an injured hiker, instead of a missing hiker. The first responders will be toned & come flying.

  8. Almost feels like im reading the BFP, conclusions without facts. I bet if you knew that this hiker did not have a broken leg, was not dressed properly, did not have the right gear to survive the situation he got hime self in, and brought an uncharged cell phone on what was going to be a 12 hour hike you would be less eager to blame the State Police. Although this is a horrible tragedy it was not created by the VSP but in the end it is up to them to make a decision to keep fat firemen and untrained volunteers from adding to the problem not the solution. I know first hand that this trail was extreme, it took rescuers 3 hrs to reach Levi 3 miles in, you do the math. Those are not trail conditions you challenge at night. I hope the lawmakers come up with a new protocol for lost hikers at night that does not put the burden on VSP, Im sure Col.Lesperance would gladly turn those duties over to another agency that is not dealing with drunks,domestics,armed robberies and patroling 90% of Vermonts communities at the same time they are trying to save unprepared hikers.

  9. Marty, its refreshing to hear an attitude focused on solving the issue rather than pointing fingers and achieving nothing. Growing up and through life, I’ve learned to prepare for the worst when going out into the wilderness, especially difficult trails. It’s unfortunate to have a loss of any life, but hopefully this will serve as a public wake up that people need to be properly prepared before going on. This is like blaming police for a drunk driver getting in an accident. The fault lies on the operator. As far as police acting as “kgb”, it shouldn’t matter what cruiser the police are in. There are countless signs posting the legal speed on road ways, they shouldn’t need to see a green cruiser to stop speeding and obey the law. They should be following it regardless.

  10. The more and more liberal we become, the more we expect to be taken care of, no matter what. How about responsibility? Why do we endanger our rescue and volunteer workers when thoughtless, selfish, unprepared people just know that they can just make a cell phone call to 911 and all will be fixed? I don’t feel that we, as a government, owe it to anyone to fix their mistakes.

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