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  1. Be on the look out in January 2013 for the VT income tax change from fed taxable to AGI, with the finacing package for Green Mountain Care.
    This will bring some of the addiitonal money needed to fund the state’s structural deficits and Green Mountain Care’s shortfall over the necessary payroll tax receipts. Of course it’s being scrapped for now–it will be terribly unpopular in an election year, 2012.
    The Blue Ribbon Tax Commission’s work was to be “revenue neutral”. Perhaps their concept was, but the state can ramp up the rate after the design change and institute a hefty tax increase.
    The state’s structural budget deficits, cost of Irene and future cost of the public health care plan indicate higher taxes in the future for the 56%+ of Vermonters who pay taxes!

    1. The assertion that 44% of working Vermonters do not pay taxes is not true and a disservice to our low-income neighbors.

      Everyone that works pays federal payroll taxes. Everyone that lives in Vermont pays sales taxes. Everyone that drives in Vermont pays gas taxes and related fees. Everyone that eats a meal out or buys a beer pays meals and alcohol taxes. Everyone that owns a home in Vermont pays education and municipal property taxes. And everyone that rents pays property taxes as a part of their rent.

      Indeed, I have no doubt that some low-income Vermonters pay a higher percentage of income in taxes than some of our wealthy neighbors.

  2. Wendy Wilton wrote: “The state’s structural budget deficits, cost of Irene and future cost of the public health care plan indicate higher taxes in the future for the 56%+ of Vermonters who pay taxes!”

    Doug Hoffer responded: “The assertion that 44% of working Vermonters do not pay taxes is not true and a disservice to our low-income neighbors.”

    I agree with Doug, except I believe that many non-working Vermonters also pay taxes. That is a small nit compared to Wendy Wilton’s division of Vermont into the 56% who pay taxes and the implication that the other 44% do not.

    I have read Ms. Wilton’s point of view regarding the potential costs of Green Mountain Care. Obviously, her analysis is speculative … but there is nothing wrong with speculation when so much is undecided. Yet, by regurgitating the myth of the national right-wing deception machine that so many Americans do not pay taxes, she certainly undermines her own credibility and forfeits any benefit of the doubt folks might have been inclined to give her.

  3. I did not say that 44% of working Vermonters do not pay taxes. What I said is that 56% of Vermonters DO pay taxes (property and/or income)–whether they work or not.

    Of the 44% who do not pay taxes, some work, some don’t. Some are retired and paid a lifetime of taxes already.

    My point is that costs are going to increase due to these fiscal issues and therefore, without a change to the tax code, this will mean an increase for those who are already footing the bill. Just sayin’.

    Pay attention to the words guys. Thanks!

    1. According to the Census Bureau, 80% of Vermonters are 18 years or older. Except for those who are institutionalized, it’s nearly impossible to live in Vermont (or any other state) without paying taxes of one kind or another. So how can it be that only 56% of Vermonters pay taxes? What is the source of your 56% figure?

      As for paying attention to the words, I note that you first said “taxes” but now say “property and/or income” taxes. Are you excluding sales taxes? Gas taxes? Meals and alcohol taxes? Which is it?

  4. “I did not say that 44% of working Vermonters do not pay taxes.”

    and then

    “Of the 44% who do not pay taxes, some work, some don’t.”

    How can this person’s analysis be taken seriously?

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