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  1. “The real challenge is: Dirty energy is cheap,” Hallquist said. “Clean energy is expensive.”
    I disagree Mr. Haliquist, dirty energy causes ill health. Ill health is very expensive according to our insurance premiums.

    He said he supports renewable energy, but “today the technology’s just not there” that could make renewables cost-effective. Current rates for renewables are two to three times more expensive than fossil fuels or nuclear energy, he said.
    I disagree Mr. Haliquist, we have enough energy to last us for centuries if we “CONSUME LESS”.

    “The devil is in the costs,” Hallquist said.
    I disagree Mr. Haliquist, the “devil” is in the consuming.

    In Montreal, the cost of regular unleaded gasoline is $1.34 per liter or $5.36 per gallon. Many bicyclists now in Montreal. However many motorists are still exceeding the speed limits and overwhelming their engine ability to process the spent fuel leading to air pollution. No attempts by the auto industry are being made to effectively limit the excessive speeds driven or overwhelming the engine pollution devices. In other words, there is a real lack of national energy conservation policy. The governments are not leading, they are simply following public opinion.

    The price of gasoline in Sweden has reached a new record high as of April 8, 2008 of 13 kronor per litre ($8.40 per gallon). Today – 13.98 kronor per liter

    More fuel efficient cars, alternative fuels, and high fuel taxes have pushed gasoline consumption in Sweden down by about 2 percent per year.

    I know of towns in New Hampshire that provide “free” public transportation and motorists still refuse to use it because the price of gasoline is too cheap. There is a line of cars 2 miles long following the empty bus home after work. In other words, Mr Haliquist, cheap energy does not promote good health and safety nor does it promote conservation. It is just business as usual. I traveled to South Carolina recently and found the speed limits had been raised to 70 mph and the traffic was going 75-85 mph. The highway was littered with collisions and disabled trucks and cars. Blown engines and flat tires were the norm. Mankind is in the hands of the “DEVIL”.

  2. It is my opinion the Vermont Comprehensive Energy Plan is an abomination, a wish list of various renewables special interest without technical and economic analysis.

    The cleanest energy is that not used because of energy efficiency measures. It should be our highest priority, not putting $160 million (most of it going to Denmark) into 459 ft high wind turbines, with 393 ft diameter rotors, on 2,000 ft high ridge lines that produce intermittent, variable, expensive energy at about 2 times grid prices WITH subsidies, and 3 times grid prices without subsidies, AND despoil the environment on these pristine ridge lines forever.

    The kicker is that recent studies, based on measured, 1/4-hour data sets, show there is almost no CO2 reduction due to wind energy, because quick-ramping gas turbine balancing plants are required to ramp down with wind energy surges and ramp up with wind energy ebbs; a very inefficient way to operate gas turbines which requires much more fuel/kWh and emits more CO2 per kWh.

    Blittersdorf (a renewables vendor),Shulman, et al, are in a hurry to put wind turbines on 200 miles of ridge lines. Lowell uses 3.2 miles, thus 200/3.2 = 62 Lowell size facilities spread throughout the state. Capital cost: 160 x 62 = $9.92 billion to produce power that is not there 10 to 15 percent of the year, mostly during summer? Irrational exuberance?

    Expensive energy great for Vermonters? The visuals great for tourism? Environmental damage great for flora and fauna? Expensive energy great for electric rates? Higher electric rates will lower living standards and business profits.

    Shulman, et al, is rushing the plan through because the federal 30% cash subsidy bonanza is expiring in 2015. This bonanza is a big benefit to wind turbine vendors (mostly foreign), project developers (such as GMP which seems to have a project supervision problem), financiers managing tax shelters (the Wall Street crowd, et al).

  3. Alex,

    I hope that I did not give the impression that I was promoting cheap and dirty electricity. I just want to have straight talk about our energy goals.

    I would not want to leave readers with the mid-perception that, under today’s reality, consumers cannot have their electricity renewable and inexpensive, as measured by their monthly utility payment. Presently, environmental costs are not passed along to consumers in their electric bill. Those costs are difficult to measure, and where we do pay for those costs are in health care, environmental clean-up funding and other areas of taxation. However, most consumers measure the effectiveness of their utility by the cost of their electric bill, along with how well we keep the lights on.

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