Green Mountain Daily Editors Urge Vermont Congressional Delegation to Oppose Reid/McConnell Debt Ceiling Bill

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8/1/2011

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The following Editors and Contributing Editors of Green Mountain Daily, after consideration and discussion, do not and cannot in good conscience support the Reid/McConnell U.S. Default bill. The legislation is not, as its sponsors claim, a “compromise” solution to a default crisis manufactured by GOP maneuvering. The bill, in its current form, is not a “compromise” under any reasonable use of that word. The bill accedes to radically extreme Republican Tea Party demands and does so at the expense of government responsibility. The bill does not solve the Republican manufactured default crises. Instead it rewards the Republican Tea Party for their reactionary intransigence, and their unwillingness to take their congressional responsibilities seriously.

At the same time, it is clear that default on our debts is not an option. Executive Branch options available to President Obama to avoid default without congressional approval, while distasteful and unprecedented, would all be preferable to the option currently under consideration. Unilateral action under the 14th amendment would be far preferable to the wholesale dismantling of critical discretionary programs and the crippling of medicare through unsustainable cuts to providers, that would ultimately be triggered under the Reid/McConnell bill. In addition, the destructive consequences of draconian cuts to other critical programs and jobs as our economic is showing signs of failing would be intolerable.

We therefore urge Senator Leahy and Representative Welch to follow the example of Senator Sanders and vote against the McConnell/Reid bill which would be harmful in the extreme to Vermonters, as well as middle and working class families across the country.

BP
Jack McCullough
kestrel9000
Maggie Gundersen
odum
Sue Prent
Caoimhin Laochdha
greenvtster
JDRyan
NanuqFC

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Pat Cashman
4 years 11 months ago

It would be interesting to know a little more about an organization that you appear so willing to print press releases from. There appears to be only two actual names on the list provided. Instead of repeating what an anonymous group writes on the wall of their treehouse, perhaps VT Digger could do some investigation of the group itself and create some actual new knowledge.

Doug Hoffer
4 years 11 months ago
Anonymous?! This crew has published hundreds of diaries and thousands of posts on numerous topics over the years (including some interesting original reporting). Their names and views are well known to anyone with an internet connection. As for creating new knowledge, are you suggesting that some press releases are more equal than others? Why is it OK to publish press releases (and other material) from groups like the GOP or the Chamber but not GMD? Moreover, do press releases actually create new knowledge? Or is vtdigger simply providing an outlet for any number of groups to reach people with information… Read more »
Edd Foerster
4 years 11 months ago

Who cares what these self-important people at GMD think about the debt-ceiling bill? They appear to be delusional.

walter carpenter
4 years 11 months ago

Why are they delusional? The Reid/McConnell bill is a terrible bill. And the GMD people are no more and no less self-important than the other folks, like the Vermont GOP, for example, that also post press releases on here.

Mike Curtis
4 years 11 months ago

I do find it odd that they don’t use their real names.

Patrick Cashman
4 years 11 months ago
Mr. Hoffer, I have an internet connection, yet I don’t know who most of these people are. You apparently also have an internet connection, so perhaps you could enlighten me: who is BP? What’s his/her background? Does she/he actually exist? What’s his/her involvement in other organizations or in government that may color his/her views and demand taking any position offered by him/her with a grain of salt? Or kestrel9000? Caoimhin Laochdha? greenvtster? JDRyan? NanuqFC? More importantly, why do you find it impertinent to ask who these people being given a podium by VT Digger actually are so I can form… Read more »
Doug Hoffer
4 years 11 months ago
Mr. Cashman GMD has been an active political blog for years. If you haven’t heard of it, a google search would take you to its Facebook page where they name names and where they identify themselves as progressive Democrats. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=47341333356 As for why vtdigger didn’t provide a complete organizational bio, I assume it’s because GMD is so well known among those who visit these types of sites. In any case, it’s simple enough to go to GMD, read a bit, and get answers to your questions. I have never known vtdigger to do anything but post press releases. That is,… Read more »
4 years 11 months ago
Actually, if you take the whole crew into account, we’re down to about 50% “progressive Democrats” these days, and the rest progressive non-affiliated independent sorts (which makes it a pretty different site now than it was when we started it, oh-so-long ago). On the other hand, it’s encouraging to see Mr. Cashman renewing his stalker crusade. It’s been a few months. Time for another round of statewide letters-to-the-editor demanding GMD be exiled, or somesuch Patrick? I look forward to the next wave of your, what – 3 year long, now? – hobby/effort. I have popcorn ready. On the other hand,… Read more »
Pat Cashman
4 years 11 months ago
Mr. Hoffer, Thanks for the tip, but I’m afraid your information is incorrect. The GMD Facebook page does not provide identities. Or perhaps it is more accurate to say it provides 175 “member”(s) pages but unfortunately doesn’t show which actual name is associated with their chosen “handles”, such as those used by at least six supposed individuals in the above letter. If you are advocating a “self help” approach to putting the letter in context, then please feel free to provide the real names of those associated with it. It is hard to imagine they are concerned with their privacy… Read more »
Doug Hoffer
4 years 11 months ago
Where to start? If you had read GMD (which Odum suggests you’ve been doing for years; hence the built-up anger), you would know full well the “biases” of the principles. Indeed, your suggestion that they lack “conviction” is odd (and unfair) since they put themselves out there almost every day and take whatever readers throw at them. As for the names, they are on the Facebook page as was noted. If you are troubled by those who used their familiar AKA’s in the press release, you could easily match them up by doing a little reading and internet research. If… Read more »
4 years 11 months ago
Doug … a quick correction … it is false to claim “[Green Mountain Daily headliners] put themselves out there almost every day and take whatever readers throw at them”. They actually have proved themselves to be nothing more than bully wannabes who screech at and pile on anybody who would have the temerity of non-GMD headliner sanctioned thought. I know – been there – done that – received it – gave it up. Back to the topic at hand. The use of fake names in editorializing is nothing new. One need do nothing more than read Benjamin Franklin’s autobiography to… Read more »
Pat Cashman
4 years 11 months ago

Mr. Odum,
My “led by journalists” quote is from the banner here on VT Digger. I assure you I have never described you or your group as journalists.
Of course, given their anonymity perhaps one of the six internet handles above belongs to an actual journalist. I guess we’ll never know.

4 years 11 months ago
Well I guess I’m technically a journalist, since I’ve done freelance work for the Guardian. Euan Bear (NanuqFC) was the editor of “Out in the Mountains” for a time, so she counts. Maggie Gundersen worked as a journalist – I think in Connecticut, but I may be wrong. Eddie Garcia (kestrel9000) is a longtime radio professional – not a journo, but a professional media guy. I believe that’s the extent of the collective professional cred of the current crowd. We’ve had other journos pass through on their way to bigger and better things. But seriously – everybody’s name is out… Read more »
Pat Cashman
4 years 11 months ago
Mr. Hoffer, The great thing about knowing actual names is that it allows the reader to inform his own opinion. Those letters to the editor from myself that Mr. Odum is upset about? Knowing my name you can look them up and determine for yourself if they were valid concerns or if I’m a nutjob. Your request to tell you about myself? You have my name, look it up. Unfortunately that isn’t an option with those on the letter above. They very well may be prolific writers of letters to the editor themselves for every topic from politics to UFO’s,… Read more »
Edd Foerster
4 years 11 months ago

Does GMD still use the tagline, “Reality Based Commentary”? That one was at least as much of a joke as Fox’s “fair and balanced.”

4 years 11 months ago

A quick point of correction to Rama: you did not “give it up,” you were, in fact, banned from GMD for repeated abusive and inappropriate behavior, despite a lot of people trying very hard to give you as much leeway as possible.

4 years 11 months ago

Sorry, Odumb, but you’re wrong … you banned me for a month because I insisted on pointing out to you how you violated your own terms of use for GMD. I chose not to return.

There is a record available, isn’t there?

4 years 11 months ago

“Odumb”

This sort of behavior is why you were banned.

Pat Cashman
4 years 11 months ago
Mr. Odum, That’s not wholly true. To be accurate you actually attempted to place Mr. Schneider in the equivalent of a “time out” after he gave a low rating to one of your comments. Oddly enough he appeared to have a problem with that and no longer posted at your site. There actually is a record which the morbidly curious can read and form their own opinions, the title is “Paula Routley can’t be that stupid” from 6 October of last year on the GMD site. Personally I have to say that the really illustrative quote for me was actually… Read more »
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