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  1. Its absurd the amount of money this state waste on corrections and court cost. Instead of housing prisoners for small periods of time which is costing tax payers more money, look for something more productive, like.. cutting wood, and rotten trees, in the woods and by the roadways, stacking it and giving it to people for fuel assistance ( their you have solved two problems)or camp wood, Painting town buildings ( or state) inside and out. Cleaning the parks, helping at library’s,nursing homes in the laundry, on farms helping farmers, the list is endless. Hard work is the best treatment, not sitting in a jail cell. Yet, we load these minor crimes into courtrooms, and correctional facilities, and cost tax payers more money. Its time to revamp a failed system and start using our heads. Its also time to go over laws which are absurd to begin with.Here’s a good example, “a passenger in a car was found with a small amount of marijuana”.She is now going to court, where you spend taxpayers money on lawyers, judges, court cost and a slap on the hand will result, this couldn’t of been handled by the police with just a fine to pay? You would of just saved hundreds in tax payers cost and the state still profited. This abuse of our tax dollars is way out of hand, and needs to be resolved. We do not need to send people outta state, that is just another abuse of tax dollars. This whole situation disgust me and many others as well. Not to mention the intelligence of the hard working men and women of this state footing the bill.

  2. ‘§ 64. [PUNISHMENT AT HARD LABOR, WHEN]

    To deter more effectually from the commission of crimes, by continued visible punishments of long duration, and to make sanguinary punishments less necessary, means ought to be provided for punishing by hard labor, those who shall be convicted of crimes not capital, whereby the criminal shall be employed for the benefit of the public, or for the reparation of injuries done to private persons: and all persons at proper times ought to be permitted to see them at their labor.’

    Vermont state constitution … http://www.leg.state.vt.us/statutes/const2.htm

    Of course we need to be hyper vigilant to assure any such measures don’t become a defacto reason to create crimes and convict people .. but still .. the concept is there to work with.

  3. I’m glad we’re comparing VT Corrections salaries with other states. I’m certain prison superintendents are paid more in other states. Superintendents should not be the first concern however. ALL CORRECTIONS employees in Vermont earn much less than their peers in other states. Rhode Island is hiring correctional officers at $45,506. Vermont is the only state in the United States that maintains the ridiculous practice of hiring almost every new correctional officer as temporary help. NO HEALTHCARE, NO SICK LEAVE, NO VACATION. Let’s worry about this first. Vermont spends millions on inmate healthcare yet doesn’t provide any health insurance to most new correctional officers. We have an outstanding commissioner that I fully support. The Shumlin Administration inherited the situation. It needs to be fixed and addressed as a higher priority than management pay.

  4. Vermont superintendants are not worth what other state pay thier superintendants. Plain and simple.

    I had to self publish a book about the former superintendant of the Chittenden Regional Correctional Facility just to go public with it. I can’t even believe he was a superintendant. Such detriments to our peaceful communities shouldn’t be paid what others make. Fortunately, he is no longer a superintendant.

    Its interesting to see how we corrolate reducing our inmate population with sending them out of state to serve their sentances. Law enforcement is like the fawcett for our prison population. You can’t talk about corrections unless you talk about local law enforcement as well.

    Vermont’s inmate population has risen so dramatically in the past fifteen years, its hard to consider a reduction by only fifty or one hundred inmates as a whoping success.

    The more the inmate population rises, the more we fail.

  5. The prison population isn’t growing because they are out n the streets instead–becoming a growing problem for the local police, VSP, and the general public.

    1. you said, they are “becoming a growing problem for the local police, VSP, and the general public”

      how serious is the problem?
      please provide evidence

  6. Wendy,

    The state of Vermont’s own annual report shows what the inmate population is for our state every year.

    The inmate population has more than doubled in the past eight years.

    Local law enforcement aren’t the angels you might think they are. We’ve had to purchase multiple video survaillance cameras to deal with an on going problem which appears to be a pattern of repeat behavior.

    Police are here to protect us. They’re not here to harrass, intimidate or bully us in any way. They’ve started to engage in flat out character assasination in what appears to be a Klu Klux Klan hickabilly phenomenon demonstrating presicely how our little state aquired the highest police misconduct rate in the nation per capita of officers.

    The majority of our first responders, albeit; police, fire or ambulatory are good people working hard to make our neighborhoods safe and it is sad to see just a few “Bad Apples” bring down the moral integrity of an entire department.

    C.Noll
    BS/MS criminal justice

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